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kahoxworth
02-23-2009, 02:34 PM
Hello all.

Yesterday on a whim I decided to take my first plunge into plate cameras and bought a Voigtlander Avus on impulse at a local camera show. Upon coming home and researching it a bit more I'm learning that some were made for 6.5x9 and some for 9x12. Is there a way to tell which is which?

Whiteymorange
02-23-2009, 02:53 PM
A ruler?

kahoxworth
02-23-2009, 02:55 PM
I should have mentioned, it did not come with any film/plate holders.

Jerevan
02-23-2009, 03:15 PM
A photo of it would make it easier to identify. A camera with a lens in the 135-150 mm range is a 9x12 and one with a 105 mm would be 6x9.

kahoxworth
02-23-2009, 03:30 PM
Thanks, that answers my question! It has a 150mm lens.

Now the real adventure starts, finding the film holders...

Ian Grant
02-23-2009, 03:40 PM
It's a 9x12 the standard lenses are either 135mm or 150mm camera's were often sold with either. I have both.

9x12 plate holders are easy to find in Germany, try a search for 9x12 on ebay.de (log in is identical to ebay.com or .co.uk etc & the watched items etc are common, so the database is the same just the front end changes). Having said that there was no standard so you need to know what you want, and sellers often don't know what they are selling :D

See the thread in this Forum about holders, inserts were available to convert plateholders to take film. 9x12 film is still available again mainly from the EU.

Ian

archphoto
02-23-2009, 03:58 PM
9x12 (and 18x24 too) mainly in Germany and Austria, otherwise 4x5 inch (and 8x10 inch).......

Peter

Ole
02-23-2009, 05:33 PM
It's "worse" than only 9x12 and 6.5x9: I have a 4.5x6cm too, and there are 10x15cm ones as well. :D

A 4.5x6 will have a 75-80mm lens; a 6.5x9 will have 105-120mm, 9x12 a 135-150mm, and 10x15 will have 165-180mm.

Soeren
02-24-2009, 12:59 AM
Hmm I just "won" an AVUS on Ebay "6X9" with a 135mm lens :p
It looks like its a 9X12 but with a 6X9 rollfilmholder and two 9X12 looking plateholders. A real expensive way to buy holders for my Bergheil.
NB. I didn't bid on or buy another camera but a skopar lens and some holders that just happened to be mounted on an AVUS :)
kind regards

Ole
02-24-2009, 03:29 AM
Søren, I'm very familiar with that "technique". Like the 24x30cm camera I bought because there was a good iris lens mount on it, the 6.5x9 Avus I bought because I needed holders (with film inserts) for my 6.5x9 Bergheil which I had originally bought for the 120mm Heliar, the 9x12 Bergheil which I bought for the opposite reason - needed 9x12cm holders with film inserts for the 9x12cm Avus since the three I got with the Rodenstock (with Eurynar) camera weren't enough...

Soeren
02-24-2009, 08:00 AM
I don't think the AVUS is usable (holes in the bellows). What are the big differences between Avus and Bergheil?
Hmm yes Ole, buying stuff this way is far more fun than buying the holders alone just to find out they dont fit :(
Kind regards

walter23
02-25-2009, 02:08 AM
Hmm I just "won" an AVUS on Ebay "6X9" with a 135mm lens :p
It looks like its a 9X12 but with a 6X9 rollfilmholder and two 9X12 looking plateholders. A real expensive way to buy holders for my Bergheil.
NB. I didn't bid on or buy another camera but a skopar lens and some holders that just happened to be mounted on an AVUS :)
kind regards

Hah. I recently got a heliar that happened to have a beat up bergheil attached and then went after a nice bergheil to attach to my heliar. Stupid :)

At least the second bergheil has a sheet film holder on it (no ground-glass back though).

JPD
02-26-2009, 02:38 AM
Hmm I just "won" an AVUS on Ebay "6X9" with a 135mm lens :pOn German eBay? If so, I thought about bidding on it for the rollfilm holder. :D

I'm not so into photography at the moment. I got a new hobby (temporarily I hope, since the days are getting longer): kerosene as a lightsource.

Soeren
02-26-2009, 06:17 AM
Yep. I did it for the holders too.
Kind regards

Mark Layne
02-26-2009, 08:06 AM
If anyone has a 10x15 Ica Favorit they wish to part with I need one
Mark