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Wayne
02-18-2012, 11:11 PM
Are there any dates on expected release? I can't wait to see this paper hit the stores. I used my last box a few months ago and really miss this beautiful paper.

I wouldn't hope for it too soon. Just follow the blog

http://www.polywarmton.com/page5/page5.html

and register to buy some

http://www.polywarmton.com/English/register.php

This has been years in the making, and I would not expect anything soon. I'n guessing it will take a while to work the kinks out and there are probably still some hurdles ahead.

But I'm very happy to see progress! I'm down to less than a half box of Fortezo, and one partial pack of PWT in the freezer. I refuse to use it all until I know for sure more is coming.

Wayne
02-18-2012, 11:16 PM
+1 on MCC, great paper - even better than the Agfa version to my mind because I like the whiter base better.

I've never used Polywarmtone and right now use Ilford MGWT FB for my warm tone prints, and MCC 110 for my neutral ones. How does Polywarmtone compare to Ilford MGWT FB?


PWT is very responsive to developers as well as toners. Truly wonderful, flexible stuff with the most pleaseing warm tone I've seen. I was never a warm tone liker until I tried it, and I fell in love with it I haven't used much MGWT but I didn't find it anywhere near as pleasing or flexible.

Roger Cole
02-19-2012, 01:20 AM
PWT is very responsive to developers as well as toners. Truly wonderful, flexible stuff with the most pleaseing warm tone I've seen. I was never a warm tone liker until I tried it, and I fell in love with it I haven't used much MGWT but I didn't find it anywhere near as pleasing or flexible.

I was never a warm tone fan either, but I tried some and now keep finding subjects it fits.

I tone it in Brown Toner (the single solution brown, not bleach and redevelop sepia - that works great too but is more PITA to mix from powder with short life, where the brown toner is a liquid concentrate.) I get the Freestyle Arista brand toner - same as Kodak but Freestyle sells it in 8 oz bottles while Kodak now only sells it (or Champion, but whatever) in a gallon sized lifetime supply for something absurd like $250+. At any rate, based on Drew Wiley's advice I mixed it 1/4 strength, but now I'm mostly mixing it 1/8th strength. I don't generally want the really brown/sepia look, but I can get that easily enough at 1/4 strength and up. I mix it 1/8th strength, 1/8 oz in a quart of water. I tone generally for 20-30 seconds, remove from toner and immerse immediately in water bath, do not drain (or the running toner can streak.) If that's not enough back in the toner.

It took me a while because I was keeping the toner a day or two and the next day it works, but more slowly, the third day barely at all etc. It was just habit, the stuff is cheap enough. So I was confused at first. But once I figured it out, went to 1/8th the bottle recommended strength, I can control it and get what I want. Generally I just want to remove the green tone and give it a hint of warm brown. 20-30 seconds in 1/8th strength does that really nicely. If I want browner/warmer I can easily get it.

Ian Grant
02-19-2012, 02:52 AM
After using MCC for years I switched to Polywarmtone and it's just soo flexible in comparison. I could have switched to MGWT but at that point it had an off white creamy base which I didn't likle.

The only paper I found better than Polywarmtone is the long discontinued old version of Agfa Record Rapid before the Cadmium was removed from the emulsion.

This yera I'll finish my last stocks of Polywarmtone and will probably move to Foma papers.

Ian

Bundesphotograph
06-08-2012, 04:36 AM
News: http://www.polywarmton.com/page5/page5.html

Wayne
06-11-2012, 08:25 PM
Bad news is good news in this case. Its up and running! Looking forward to hearing about try #2!

Vlad Soare
06-12-2012, 01:05 AM
Yup. Great news, indeed.

Bundesphotograph
08-11-2012, 10:09 AM
First trial coatings on a laboratory scale :http://www.polywarmton.com/page5/page5.html

and

https://www.facebook.com/pages/ADOX/144601278974589

ADOX Fotoimpex
11-03-2012, 06:12 AM
NEWS: http://www.polywarmtone.com/Blog/English.html

Kind regards,

Mirko

MrclSchprs
11-03-2012, 06:20 AM
Hurray! Is there any news about availability? Probably not, but asking never hurts.

Ian Grant
11-03-2012, 06:21 AM
Great news Mirko. Any idea when you might do a production run.

Ian

payral
11-03-2012, 10:58 AM
Great news !! Two days ago, I printed one of my artist book on Polywarmtone Elegance Glossy - Beautiful prints.

ADOX Fotoimpex
11-03-2012, 03:08 PM
Any idea when you might do a production run

Hi Ian,

you know well about the obstacles in producing silver halide materials so my answer will probably not surprise you:

"WeŽll do a production run after we have finished labscale reasearch and scaled up both emulsion making as well as coating" :whistling:

Kind regards,

Mirko

bdial
11-03-2012, 03:28 PM
Great news indeed!
Thanks for the update, Mirko.

Here's to hoping the rest of the process goes well, I'm ready to buy a fresh box of PWT.

Klainmeister
11-03-2012, 04:26 PM
Do I smell the ultimate lith paper in the brew kettle?

Ian Grant
11-03-2012, 06:55 PM
Hi Ian,

you know well about the obstacles in producing silver halide materials so my answer will probably not surprise you:

"WeŽll do a production run after we have finished labscale reasearch and scaled up both emulsion making as well as coating" :whistling:

Kind regards,

Mirko

If you want someone to test pre release coatings count me in. I've used a lot of different papers over the years but I wish I'd found Polywarmtone sooner, I only began using it after Agfa stopped trading as a consumer film/paper manufacturer. I still have enough for my next exhibition from the last Forte coating run (I hope).

Ian

Wayne
11-04-2012, 06:33 PM
This is great news. I'm down to a few dozen sheets of Fortezo and maybe a dozen of PWT. Hopefully my running out coincides with your producing more.

kb3lms
11-14-2012, 08:50 AM
Missed the posting here, but I checked the PWT blog as I do every month or so. Great news, Mirko! Best of luck for your progress. I'm waiting to buy a box!

-- Jason

Klainmeister
11-14-2012, 10:32 AM
Signed your registration for a bunch of boxes. Would really love to get my hands on this paper. Thanks guys!

Bundesphotograph
01-26-2013, 01:28 PM
News from ADOX : http://www.polywarmtone.com/Blog/English_files/7b8ed6f0609fdce9d8b316db8c7bdf1c-10.html