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clayne
03-08-2010, 11:33 PM
I've found VT Classic to be quite an excellent paper. MCC is of course, beautiful.

Tom Stanworth
03-10-2010, 12:21 AM
I have been thinking about this one and I reckon that MCC will be back as my main go to paper with MGWT for when I need the additional warmth or contrast and MGIV for neutral tones and higher contrast. MCC just gives a great all round balance although I prefer the gloss and depth of MGWT by a small margin.

clayne
03-13-2010, 06:30 AM
BTW: Did Adox change the weight of MCC anywhere along the line? I recently cut down some 11x14 to 5x7s and during the process noticed that it definitely didn't feel like 250g - however FS states that it's a 250g double-weight base. Was this a recent change or was it always and now 180g?

kauffman v36
03-13-2010, 06:40 PM
my pack of 25 sheet 8x10 MCC does not feel as thick as ilford MGIV but i figured its just me.

Ektagraphic
03-27-2010, 01:27 PM
I agree that it is not as thick but I think this paper is amazing. I think that I will use it exclusivly for a little while.

kauffman v36
04-01-2010, 02:43 AM
just got my issue of the freestyle photo zine, article on MC110 is spot on. this paper rocks, i just wish i had it in 11x14 instead of having 150 sheets 11x14 of MGIV.

Ken N
04-01-2010, 09:11 AM
About the only bad habit I've found with MC110 is the edge of the paper scalloping after it has dried. I didn't really notice it until I had a blank sheet of paper go through my process that I decided to use for focusing and framing in the easel. It wouldn't go in the catch slot on the easel. I don't recall ever having this problem with other papers to the same extent. I'd imagine this would also show up in the mounting process if you don't trim the edges of the paper first.

The second bad habit I've run into and it has caused me no end to grief, is that with the Print WA developer, there seems to come a point in developer exhaustion where one print is fine and the next is three stops under-exposed. Instead of a gentle slowdown in development, it seems to crash. Am I off my rocker on this one?

mikebarger
04-02-2010, 12:37 PM
I wouldn't say off your rocker, but if you are making several copies of a negative and there was a gradual fall off.....you might like the sudden change.

just 2 cents..

Mike

lloyd
04-02-2010, 07:26 PM
"my pack of 25 sheet 8x10 MCC does not feel as thick as ilford MGIV but i figured its just me."

I recently had the opportunity to measure, after processsing, 12 different b/w papers currently available.

With a micrometer, the difference among papers was not more than .005 in.

clayne
04-02-2010, 07:37 PM
"my pack of 25 sheet 8x10 MCC does not feel as thick as ilford MGIV but i figured its just me."

I recently had the opportunity to measure, after processsing, 12 different b/w papers currently available.

With a micrometer, the difference among papers was not more than .005 in.

That doesn't say much. I can easily feel a significant difference between MCC, K-888, and ADOX FP Vario Classic.

kauffman v36
04-03-2010, 04:04 AM
in regards to my previous comment that MCC seems thinner than MGIV, yesterday i was using a new 25 pack of 8x10 MG Warmtone and it also felt thinner than MGIV. by thinner i dont mean worse, i actually like the way MGWT, MC110, and ADOX VT feel, but MGIV def. feels like a thicker, more robust paper.

lloyd
04-03-2010, 08:57 AM
"That doesn't say much. I can easily feel a significant difference between MCC, K-888, and ADOX FP Vario Classic."

I recently had the opportunity to measure, after processsing, 12 different b/w papers currently available.

With a micrometer, the difference among papers was not more than .005 in.

I went back and looked at my notes and I stand corrected: the difference I meant to say was .0005, ie 1/2 of 1 thousandth, BUT that was a mistake--the difference is actually .001, ie 1 thousandth.

MCC at .0115, Vario at.0105. the .0105 represents the thinner of all the papers (several at this thickness) and the .0115 the thickest, tho a few papers are actually .01155 (Fotokemika and MGIV)

clayne
04-03-2010, 08:25 PM
MCC at .0115, Vario at.0105. the .0105 represents the thinner of all the papers (several at this thickness) and the .0115 the thickest, tho a few papers are actually .01155 (Fotokemika and MGIV)

Wait a sec here. The Adox Fineprint VC I have in the darkroom right now is absolutely thicker than MCC. You don't even need a micrometer to feel this. I'm talking about this paper: http://www.freestylephoto.biz/12882-Adox-Fine-Print-Vario-Classic-VC-FB-8x10-25-sheets-Glossy?cat_id=503

Granted, micrometers are pretty damn accurate, but something doesn't seem right to me here with these measurements.

Ken N
04-05-2010, 11:50 AM
A new package of MCC 11x14 arrived Friday. I could swear that the paper is thinner than the previous month's batch. Also, the paper is cut the other direction. Instead of the short ends of the paper curling in, the longer sides now curl. I won't mention the 1/16 of a stop difference in sensitivity...

lloyd
04-06-2010, 08:45 AM
"Granted, micrometers are pretty damn accurate, but something doesn't seem right to me here with these measurements."

What can I say? Measurements are just that, but I know what you mean---out of the box, Varycon felt miles thicker than any other paper, but
when measured the difference just wasn't that much. That said, we can obviously perceive .001 pretty easily in a feel test.

Nicole
04-11-2010, 06:19 PM
Mirko, tolle nachrichten! Gibt es einen Haendler in Australien?

clayne
06-19-2010, 07:03 AM
FYI: in case others haven't noticed yet - ADOX is now offering MCC in 5x7 25 sht packs through Freestyle.

Saves the hassle of cutting down larger sizes. I've already picked up a few packs myself.

StigHagen
11-19-2010, 11:02 AM
Hi!

Can we expect a price drop on this paper sometime soon? Or more economical boxing? I feel it is expensive compared to other quality papers. Almost twice as expensive as Kentmere Fineprint FB and 30% more expensive than Ilford MGIV FB.

I've been comparing prices for 50 sheets 12x16" inch at ag-photographic.co.uk which have good prices for MCC.

Ken N
11-22-2010, 11:46 AM
Well, I'm not happy about the price either, but it is so much better that I can justify it.

ken

mikebarger
11-22-2010, 06:42 PM
I bought a 125 sheets twice, not again. I'm out of that market until we see it in 100 sheet boxes. Nice as it is, it's a form of price gouging.

There are other good B&W papers out there, without the small box premium.

My 2 cents.

Mike