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Anton Lukoszevieze
09-09-2009, 02:43 PM
Anyone got a copy they can look up my camera with? A German Edelweiss 9x12cm folding camera. I would be very grateful just for clarifying of where it is from, etc.?
Thank you

Fotoguy20d
09-09-2009, 02:48 PM
I have a 92-93 edition so it's not as thorough as the newer ones but I'll check tonight.

Anton Lukoszevieze
09-09-2009, 03:44 PM
Thank you!

kameranerd.com
09-09-2009, 04:22 PM
Hi, the only thing i McKeowns of Edelweiss from Germany is from a company name ISE, here are the words in the katalog: Edelweiss Deluxe- folding camera for 6.5x9cm plates. Brown leather, tan double-extension bellows. Tessar f4.5/120mm lens in compur. $120-180.
Hope this was any help.

Best regards
Kent Bentzen

ntenny
09-09-2009, 04:55 PM
I googled and found a picture of one at http://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Ise/Edelweiss-Deluxe.html. The image seems to have been of a camera sold by LeicaShop, which they say had a 135/4.5 Tessar; judging purely from the picture, it kind of looks to me like it was intended as a competitor at the Voigtlaender Avus level, a quality 9x12 camera with a good, but not extraordinary, lens and good fit and finish.

I can't find anything whatsoever about this "ISE" company in general, though.

-NT

kameranerd.com
09-09-2009, 05:19 PM
This camera (edelweiss) was the only one listed under ISE. I think there was a hole bunch of small german camera companies.

Kent

diser
09-09-2009, 05:47 PM
McKeown's lists only two Edelweiss cameras.
- one by ZKM (ЗКМ, Bulgaria), 4.5x6cm 1958-1959;
- and another by Ise (Germany) Deluxe version, folding camera, 6.5x9cm.

Considering you are asking about 9x12cm, there is no such camera in the McKeown's... It could be the regular version of Edelweiss Deluxe... Or just other rebadged camera.

Fotoguy20d
09-09-2009, 06:38 PM
My McKeown's has the same info as everyone else is reporting.

Dan

Ian Grant
09-10-2009, 02:15 AM
Considering you are asking about 9x12cm, there is no such camera in the McKeown's... It could be the regular version of Edelweiss Deluxe... Or just other rebadged camera.

Having seen images of Anton's camera (which is the one linked to earlier) I'd have to say it's at the high end of pre-War 9x12 camera's and is most certainly De-Luxe.

The problem appears to be that the company itself may have been very short lived, the shutter tells us this was made at the height of the Great Depression, and the camera trade in Germany was in great turmoil. The Compur shutter & Zeiss lens serial numbers (http://www.motamedi.info/serial.htm) would give us even better indicators.

The mid 20's saw a lot of major German camera companies amalgamation to form Zeiss Ikon in 1926, and a few others disappeared.

Ian

Anton Lukoszevieze
09-10-2009, 03:41 AM
Hi
thanks all.
Yes, mine is the one from the Leica shop in Wien. It is a lovely camera, on par with a Voigtlander Bergheil for quality and having an interchangeable lens facility. The Zeiss lens I have dated to 1929, so presuming it came with the camera (likely), it is indeed height of Great Depression time, as Ian points out. It is turning into one of my favourite cameras and at 80 years old pristine and working hard :) Just need more bloody 9x12 film inserts! But am using a Rada back too so great for 6x9 and 6x6.

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/1/6/3/1/0/9x12a.jpg
http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/1/6/3/1/0/9x12d.jpg

Ian Grant
09-10-2009, 04:36 AM
It's compact compared to some 9x12's. PM sent on film sheaths :D

How well does the date of the shutter match the lens ? My 1927/8 f4.5 135mm Tessar is in a pre 1920 Compur, as the camera (Patent Etui) is in excellent condition it's likely to be the original.

Ian

Anton Lukoszevieze
09-10-2009, 06:25 AM
Shutter number is 642312, don't have a serial list though....

Ian Grant
09-10-2009, 06:33 AM
That makes it 1925/6. I posted the link on the previous page of the thread (http://www.apug.org/forums/858925-post9.html) :D

Ian

Anton Lukoszevieze
09-10-2009, 06:54 AM
OK thanks! duh...