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Rolleiflexible
09-24-2009, 09:44 PM
it seems to be talking to these people
as if they just picked up a camera
and are trying to find their way ...

In my hometown in Virginia, I've met several
people who hold themselves out as portrait and
wedding photographers, with storefronts and
studios and everything. And they basically didn't
have a clue about photography -- they plunked
the money down on a digital something-D and
hooked it up to a computer and made it up as
they went along. And people pay them and
are happy with what they get.

It has made me wonder about the role of
"professional" photography in an age when
everybody has a camera stuck in their phone.

jnanian
09-24-2009, 09:51 PM
the whole thing is kind of weird ... and to think they are "professionals"
charging 5K a wedding ...

markbarendt
09-24-2009, 10:00 PM
the whole thing is kind of weird ... and to think they are "professionals"
charging 5K a wedding ...

That's $1 per shot. :p

jnanian
09-24-2009, 10:06 PM
That's $1 per shot. :p

:)

rmolson
09-25-2009, 08:52 PM
the whole thing is kind of weird ... and to think they are "professionals"
charging 5K a wedding ...
I saw my grand daughters wedding shots on the web and I guess volume is more important than quality!

Rolleiflexible
09-25-2009, 09:28 PM
I'm a litigator when I'm not a photographer.
When I was starting out, the idea of appearing
before a judge and arguing my case was an
intimidating prospect. How was I ever going
to present my argument with the ease and
grace of Perry Mason?

My first day in a courtroom was a quick
education in what happens in courts in the
real world. Now, when coaching a young lawyer,
I tell them to go and spend a day in court -- any
court -- watching the lawyers make their cases.
It's a great confidence builder.

A few times I've had people ask me to shoot
their weddings. I'm not qualified to do that so
I tell them thanks but, really, go hire a real
photographer to do that.

Except, now that I've met the real photographers,
it makes me think I'd be well-served opening up
a photo studio and taking the commissions.

MattKing
09-25-2009, 10:57 PM
I'm a litigator when I'm not a photographer.
When I was starting out, the idea of appearing
before a judge and arguing my case was an
intimidating prospect. How was I ever going
to present my argument with the ease and
grace of Perry Mason?

My first day in a courtroom was a quick
education in what happens in courts in the
real world. Now, when coaching a young lawyer,
I tell them to go and spend a day in court -- any
court -- watching the lawyers make their cases.
It's a great confidence builder.

A few times I've had people ask me to shoot
their weddings. I'm not qualified to do that so
I tell them thanks but, really, go hire a real
photographer to do that.

Except, now that I've met the real photographers,
it makes me think I'd be well-served opening up
a photo studio and taking the commissions.

Sanders:

1) By referring to Perry Mason, we tend to date ourselves, don't we :);

2) Can you think of any example where Perry Mason actually argued any law :)?

3) Excellent advice to new lawyers, although I would expand it a bit and recommend that everyone who has any desire to comment on courts and the law should go through the same exercise;

4) I started first as a photographer (including as a wedding photographer) and then became a lawyer later. While I tend to cringe when I see some of the wedding work being done now, I have no desire to go back!

Matt

Rolleiflexible
09-26-2009, 12:19 AM
Amen to that, mon cher confrere.

jasonhall
09-26-2009, 12:22 AM
Rules are meant to be broken by those who a) actually understand, fundamentally, why it is considered a rule in the first place and b) who know how and when to break rules in order to add to the impact of the result. Rules should not be broken by those who a) have no idea why it is a rule, or worse, don't even know that it is a rule b) have no idea what they are trying to say in the first place, and/or c) are more concerned with impressing and/or emulating others than with expressing themselves......

- Randy


agreed....

Jason