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rsherwin
09-26-2009, 08:53 PM
try as I may, I have not found sources for printing panoramic negatives (the old fashioned black and white types). If you are into this I would like to get some feedback/tips on setting up a darkroom as I have several b&w pan negs. Also, looking for printing supplies (roll paper, chemicals, etc). RICHARD

Mike1234
09-26-2009, 09:04 PM
What size negs?

If you're interested in scanning and printing digitally you might check out the sister hybridphoto site. If you want to stay 100 percent analog you're in the right place... best analog pano site on the net.

David A. Goldfarb
09-26-2009, 10:06 PM
The big question, as Mike asks, is "what format?" And you might add, "how large do you want to print?"

If you're enlarging, say, Xpan or Horizont negs or any format up to 6x12cm, it's easy. Up to about 4x10", it's a matter of having a bigger enlarger, which takes up more space and is harder to find, and involves a bit more commitment, but is manageable. Larger than that, like 7x17" or 8x20" or Cirkut formats are usually contact printed, which is also not terribly difficult--in some ways easier than enlarging, and nothing beats a big contact print. Enlarging from formats like 7x17" and larger is a more complicated matter that may involve some custom equipment.

dwdmguy
09-27-2009, 08:01 AM
ditto... What size negs.. prints?

I came here for help with my xpan negs and learned to make a mask from one of my carriers. Also it was suggested to file a 35mm carrier to the correct size, but you'll need a larger then 35mm enlarger to print, i.e., 45mx etc..
Best.

rsherwin
09-29-2009, 09:52 AM
These are the Cirkut type negs...approx 8" x 36-48"
Richard

David A. Goldfarb
09-29-2009, 10:10 AM
Contact printing with a vacuum easel would be the traditional method. I suppose you could also have a custom multi-part split-back print frame made as well with maybe three hinged sections, two halves each, with a leaf spring on each half to keep a negative like that flat, but a second hand vacuum easel might be less expensive than a new custom print frame in that size, and would be a more versatile tool in many ways.

Xmas
09-29-2009, 11:41 AM
Contact printing with a vacuum easel would be the traditional method. I suppose you could also have a custom multi-part split-back print frame made as well with maybe three hinged sections, two halves each, with a leaf spring on each half to keep a negative like that flat, but a second hand vacuum easel might be less expensive than a new custom print frame in that size, and would be a more versatile tool in many ways.
David

Yes but two bits of plastic one glass plate and half a dozen bull dog clips are ok for POP?

A 120 pano make magic contacts...

Noel

David A. Goldfarb
09-29-2009, 06:33 PM
That might work for, say, 6x17cm, but it wouldn't provide enough even pressure for contact printing a Cirkut neg, which is much larger and is what the original poster is asking about.

mhcfires
09-30-2009, 02:51 AM
Might want to check with Jamie Young. He has experience contact printing Cirkut negatives.

Xmas
09-30-2009, 05:29 AM
That might work for, say, 6x17cm, but it wouldn't provide enough even pressure for contact printing a Cirkut neg, which is much larger and is what the original poster is asking about.
Ok cunningly concealed in post #5... I'd still be tempted to experiment.
Noel