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jnanian
11-04-2009, 08:41 PM
Silver Magnet

an affordable silver recovery solution to
remove most of the silver from your spent fixer.

the silver magnet is a small electrolytic device that can
electroplate most the silver from a gallon of spent fixer in 24 hours.
the cathode can hold 28-32 troy oz of silver before it is removed from the unit and traded in for $$$.

no minimums or exorbitant fees.

please contact me if interested: silvermagnet@nanianphoto.com

thanks

john

jnanian
02-08-2010, 04:24 PM
i wanted to let folks know that in addition to the silver magnet i am now distributing trickle tanks.

just a run down on the difference between the two

a silver magnet removes silver from wash water and fixer through electrolysis.
it can get a lot of the silver out, but leaves around 50 parts / million in your waste stream.

a trickle tank will remove more silver from your waste water and spent fixer.
it will get your waste stream down to around 5 parts / million or less.
it removes the silver through ionic transfer.

when you send in the silver magnet's electrode you get paid for the silver on the electrode.
you don't get paid for all of it, there are some fees involved, but not much.
the bottom half of the trickle tanks are mailed to a refiner and there is a fee for processing it, no cash is sent to you.

to give you an idea of the prices ..
the silver magnet is less than 50$ ( does not including shipping )
and the trickle tanks are less than 160$ ( does not including shipping )

the replacement cathode for the silver magnet is less than 20$ ( does not including shipping )
and the replacement bottom half of the trickle tank is less than 100$ ( does not including shipping )

you are interested or have any question regarding silver recovery
feel free to contact me: silvermagnet@nanianphoto.com

jnanian
05-03-2010, 07:48 AM
i am waiting for an email from a canadian refiner
that will take the full silver magnet cathodes
in exchange for canadian dollars. no minimums &C just like the
refiner in the states.

i will be posting more about this soon, but this is great news for people in canada because
they don't have to ship to the states (customs ) ...
and then exchange american dollars for canadian ones.

the company was happy to offer their services.

thanks for your support!
john

PhotoBob
05-06-2010, 09:43 PM
Great new ... I look forward to the update :)

jnanian
05-25-2010, 04:40 PM
i am happy to announce some great news for folks in canada are thinking of using the silver magnet!

i just got news from Environmental Control Systems in barrie ontario that they would like to take the silver flake from you.
they will supply dhl shipping from you to their site, and supply you with about 90% of the $$ from your full cathode.

this will allow you to send the cathode directly to them, so you don't have to deal with customs, brokers and currency exchange.

thanks for your interest and support !

john

Perry Way
05-25-2010, 07:57 PM
This is awesome John! And so cheep too (as compared with some whoop-dee-doo instruments that I last knew about)!

How long does it take to accumulate the silver? A full cathode means what when the rubber meets the road? Say I'm developing about 12 4x5's and a roll of 120 per week, and about 20 test strips (5x7's) and maybe what.. 10 11x14's, per week, and say I throw out my fixer before it is fully spent (I like fresh dependable fixer you can hang your hat on for the time it requires). Since I don't know what the workload of other photographers is like, maybe you could give me an idea from that? I'm guessing it would be more than a year to get a full cathode. What do you think?

jnanian
05-25-2010, 08:19 PM
hi perry

the number i have heard is that there is about 1/4 troy oz of silver in a gallon of spent fixer ...
so depending on how often you use a gallon of fixer to exhaustion ...

you don't need to wait for the cathode to be full to send it in ...
if you want to send it in with less, its up to you.
or ... if you want to just hang on to the cathode when it is full
get a new one and stock up on silver until the price goes even higher,
or sell it to a jeweler, or a chemist or put it in a safe deposit box, that is fine too ;)

the main thing is that you are getting it out of the waste stream.

ECS
05-26-2010, 09:12 AM
Hello Analog Users,

First off, Thank you for choosing Environmental Control Systems to be a part of your group. We are a 40+ year old Silver Recovery and Waste Disposal Company located throughout Canada with the Head Office in Barrie Ontario. As John Nanian mentioned we have established an agreement to Refine the silver from your Silver Magnet Cathodes with NO shipping Costs! Payment will be 10X the current Silver Price Per Pound less an $85 Refining Fee for Canadian Members.

As an Example: if you provided us 5lbs of silver and the price of silver was 18USD we would pay you $180 per pound for 5lbs = $900. Subtract the $85 refining fee leaves a payment to you in the amount of $815!

For those who would like an estimate please email me your usage time and silver weight. At ECS we accredit much of our success and growth to our honest and ethical business practices. We will remove the silver from the cathode and weight the quality silver, pay you accordingly and look forward to receiving your product over and over again.

TO REQUEST A PICK UP OF YOUR SILVER MAGNET CATHODE
Environmental Control Systems as created a custom portal to make these requests easy and efficient, please visit and bookmark www.ecs-cares.com/apug to request a pick up.
(http://www.ecs-cares.com/apug)
If you have any questions please feel free to email me directly at trevor@ecs-cares.com (mailto:trevor@ecs-cares.com) or call 800.263.1857

Thanks again for the opportunity to refine your silver and support your environmental efforts.

Look forward to hearing from you!

jnanian
05-26-2010, 01:13 PM
thanks trevor !

john

clayne
05-27-2010, 07:10 AM
This may sound like a completely stupid question: but what's the impetus behind paying 10x cost for recovered silver? Also, is it open to US members?

Ah, I get it now, 5/8th fractional value thereof.

jnanian
05-27-2010, 07:41 AM
hi clayne

the silver magnet can be used by us members
european members, people in the uk or anyone is interested in
removing silver from their spent fixer.

the problem was that if you were in canada, you would have
to send the silver across to the us, deal with customs and
maybe tariffs and brokers fees, and then convert us dollars to
canadian currency ... it was do-able, but kind of a pain ...

here in the states you can mail it direct to a refinery ( here in the states )
and get paid without having to deal with sending it to another country.
and you get paid about the same amount for your silver ... ( around 90% ) ...

hopefully in the next few weeks i'll find a company in the eu / uk
that will help out, sending overseas and dealing with tariffs, and currency exchange
is no fun.

thanks for your interest

john

clayne
07-05-2010, 04:36 AM
jnan, what's the capacity of the fixer after having recovered silver? Is it merely a factor of how much thiosulfate has been used for the actual fixing process?

I've been thinking of a way to best handle a bunch of test scraps and saturated fixer. Thinking of bleach bathing and fixing out all the silver that's still soluble.

jnanian
07-05-2010, 09:53 AM
hi clayne

i wish i had an answer for you but unfortunately i don't.
PE might know the answer to a question like that. next week
i will contact the manufacturer to get their thoughts on this as well.

Ian Grant
07-05-2010, 10:39 AM
Yes Clayne can use bleach, or ferric chloride, then rinse & refix to remove all remaining silver from scrap prints/films. That's how silver is recovered from Xray films, old litho film etc, we used to reprocess many tons a year that way, the fixer recycling through a plating unit continuously.

However there's not a lot of silver in paper in the first place so it's less economic to process that way, it's usually incinerated commercially.

Ian

jnanian
07-05-2010, 11:02 AM
thanks ian!

john

jnanian
12-16-2010, 09:44 AM
through the end of december ... i donate 5% to apug for every silver recovery device sold ...

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum146/84564-buy-silver-recovery-device-i-give-5-donation-apug-through-end-december.html


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SILVER SPOT PRICE

http://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/gold-silver-daily-spot-prices.html

kraker
12-29-2010, 05:18 AM
hopefully in the next few weeks i'll find a company in the eu / uk that will help out, sending overseas and dealing with tariffs, and currency exchange is no fun.


Any news on this?...

jnanian
12-29-2010, 08:20 AM
Any news on this?...



:( nope i had a lead or two but
they didn't pan-out ... i have my ear to the ground still ...

jnanian
01-14-2011, 10:15 AM
for folks living in the EU and UK,
i have some great news for you.
with the help of Simon Galley i was able
to successfully find a refiner who would be interested
in accepting the silver magnet when it is ready to refine it.

they are JBR Recovery Limited, and are located in the UK

they are able to refine your silver whether you live in the UK or EU,
and give you around the same amount
for it as the refiners we have working with us in the USA and Canada.

their web address is: http://jbr.co.uk/
when you are ready
contact them through their website,
and they will go over the particulars with you.

Thanks Simon + Ilford for telling me about these folks !


Happy Silver Recovering ..

john

juan
01-15-2011, 06:44 AM
After exposing my albumen prints, I wash them until the water runs clear. I believe, though I'm not sure, that what I am washing off is unexposed silver. Can this water be processed in the same way as fixer?
juan