View Full Version : You ULF People w/ Big Lenses... BIG QUESTION!!

11-21-2009, 02:43 PM
I'm assembling a 5x12in kit and my biggest diemna has been WHICH 210mm WA. I've bought a 210 Apo Symmar, 210 G-Claron, and 210 Graphic-Kowa. From what I've read the latter will give me the coverage and corner-to-corner sharpness I lust for and the former two will NOT. Please provide YOUR experience.

I also have:
72 SA XL for 5x10 (barely covers)
110 SS XL for 5x12 (barely covers)
150 SS XL for 5x12 (with wiggle room)
210's (as stated)
300 Fuji-C
450 Fuji-C
600mm plus (later... probably Nikkor 600/800 Tele)

Greg Davis
11-21-2009, 03:21 PM
I have the APO-Symmar 210mm and it will cover 8x10 wide open, but barely. Since that is an image circle of 12 inches, and 5x12 has one of 13 inches, it may only cover at f22 or smaller. Though it may not cover at all, at least when focused at infinite.

11-21-2009, 03:35 PM
Mike I think you answered your question. Go with the Kowa.

11-21-2009, 04:18 PM
210 mm Graphic Kowa :D

I have used the 210 mm G-Claron on the 5x12 camera, but if I recall correctly, it doesn't have much in the way of movements. It's been a while since I've shot that particular lens on this camera. For the Kowa, I had some decent movements (again, it's been a while since I've shot this particular focal length on this camera), but I believe it was sharp corner to corner.

11-21-2009, 05:49 PM
I traded my 210mm Super Symmar HM from my 8x10 up to the 210mm SSXL. It was as big in its case to carry around as the 7x17 camera. I never used it and eventually sold it. It will cover but I don't think it is worth the trouble to say nothing of the money.

John Powers

11-21-2009, 07:38 PM
I haven't had the opportunity to test yet but I strongly suspect, as others say here, that the Kowa is the winner. What I don't understand is that it's smaller than the G-Claron and yet covers more. They're "similar" designs, right?

11-21-2009, 08:17 PM
Can only tell you what I have for my 7x11 - A Fuji 450C, 300C and a Doktor Optics 240, all have great coverage. Had a Caltar 375mm that also would cover (that said, I don't consider anything ULF until at least 11x14 - those between 8x10 and 11x4 I consider Exotic Large Format or ELF).

11-22-2009, 12:22 AM
I have the Fuji 300 and 450 C lenses. The only really difficult choice was the 200-210 focal length but with the input here and elsewhere I feel confident the Kowa is the best option. It looks like I'll be selling the 210 G-Claron and Apo Symmar soon but I want to test them against the Kowa first.

Richard K.
11-22-2009, 05:17 PM
Mike1234, you could also maybe try to find a Rodenstock (Apo) Sironar 210 W. These have an 80 DEG field and will cover (336mm), more than the standard 210mm Plasmat. It may take a couple of months to find though...
Um, BTW, could you spare a box of 5x12 FP4? :>)

11-22-2009, 05:49 PM
Richard, I haven't bought any film yet. In fact, I still don't have the camera. I'll be looking for a roll of 5" aerial film very soon though. :)

Richard K.
11-22-2009, 06:25 PM
Richard, I haven't bought any film yet. In fact, I still don't have the camera. I'll be looking for a roll of 5" aerial film very soon though. :)

Are you having a camera made or a line on a used one?

11-22-2009, 09:15 PM
I'm saving money for a used Korona but unforeseen expenses are taking the cash.