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Fullspace
02-11-2010, 10:23 AM
Hi all,

I'd like to try wet plate collodion, but I can only get 2% collodion, but the majority of sources I have read say a concentration of around 6-8% should be used.

Is it pointless using the 2% or should it work?

Any help/advice is much appreciated!

Louis.

billschwab
02-11-2010, 10:34 AM
www.mavidon.com

This is where I order my collodion. Click on "Wet Plate Photography". I order the 625 ml bottles and they go a long way.

Good luck!

Fullspace
02-11-2010, 10:46 AM
Thanks for that, but should have said I'm based in Ireland. I don't think you can send collodion over seas, can you?

Barry S
02-11-2010, 10:47 AM
Where are you located? You should be using USP collodion if possible, not non-flexible collodion--which contains castor oil and other additives. If your 2% collodion is pure (a mixture of only pyroxiline, ether, and ethanol), you may be able to use it. The final concentration of pyroxiline in salted collodion is about 2%, so you may have some success dissolving your iodide and bromide salts in the absolute smallest volumes of solvent (a couple mls), and then adding them directly to your 2% collodion. Your ether concentration will be higher than normal--maybe 70% vs. 59% for normal salted collodion, but it may be fine. Some collodion workers use ether concentrations as low as 30% if they dilute the collodion with only ethanol as a solvent. A bit higher might work, but if your mixture thickens with use, I'd dilute it back down with pure ethanol--which would bring your ether concentration closer to that in normal salted collodion. Before you waste your time, see if you can find a similar collodion preparation that's used in the US or Europe.

Edit: Ok, someone should be able to give you an EU source.

billschwab
02-11-2010, 10:51 AM
You might want to contact Quinn Jacobson (http://www.collodion.com) and get on the Collodion Forum. Quinn now lives in Europe and has helped a lot of wet heads over there obtain the goods. There are also a lot of Europeans on the forum that I am sure can help you.

Fullspace
02-11-2010, 10:51 AM
Thanks! The collodion I USP, no castor oil added!

So I could add my salts in, just with a lot less ether/ethanol? I was thinking of doing that actually. Just wasn't too sure!

I'm based in Ireland by the way!!

Barry S
02-11-2010, 10:59 AM
Thanks! The collodion I USP, no castor oil added!

So I could add my salts in, just with a lot less ether/ethanol? I was thinking of doing that actually. Just wasn't too sure!

I'm based in Ireland by the way!!

Use ethanol as a solvent, and the absolute least you can get away with--you don't want any more ether. Bill's advice to ask Quinn about a collodion source is a good idea.

eoghan
02-15-2010, 12:14 AM
You might want to contact Quinn Jacobson (http://www.collodion.com) and get on the Collodion Forum. Quinn now lives in Europe and has helped a lot of wet heads over there obtain the goods. There are also a lot of Europeans on the forum that I am sure can help you.

There are a few Irish people on the board too

Eoghan