Zeiss Icon vs R3A/R2A

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found an online manual, thanks Noel.
have a return label already Helen. thanks

If the shutter (including the interlocks for double and blank frame prevention) jams you are stuck part way through a sequence and the camera wont do anything at all, it needs to do lots of things to go from I've just taken a pic to I'm ready for the next pic.

You have been unlucky lots of people use the Cosina cameras (i.e. RD/1, ZM,... etc.) without any shutter problems.

The Leica film rangefinder shutter is inherently rather simple and has fewer things to go wrong thereby but they can fail as well. The fewer things to go wrong does make the Leica more reliable.

Noel

[Vincenzo Maielli]

The rangefinder of the Zeiss Ikon is better than the corrispondent item in Bessa R2/3/4.
Ciao.
Vincenzo

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would hope so...it's about $1000 more isn't it? :-)

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would hope so...it's about $1000 more isn't it? :-)

Yes but when you buy a CV lens you are only paying 'extra' for the license to use the word Voightlander. Cosina are prime i.e. it is 'their' badge.

When you buy Zeiss then it says made in Japan (on all but a few things) and Zeiss management are adding their fee, local maintenance service, nice manuals and boxes. e.g. Cosinas robot milling machines are given different things to mill.

Cosina are good (efficient) at making things, licensing the name and selling prime has been more profitable for them, and their little lenses (most are little) are ok.

The only bad thing is that other obsolete equipment like Canon Ps are getting more expensive, because of all the modern glass multi coated LTM lenses. 20 years ago when they failed it was cheaper to get another today you have them fixed.

Noel

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well, I have the Bessa and Nokton 50 1.1
Adorama took the non working camera back, no questions. Seems to be taking me a while to run a roll through this camera, but loving the feel of it in my hands. Do wish I could focus closer in to my subjects though.
Will be sure to post as I work with it.
Thank you so much for all the feedback.

[HelenOster]

well, I have the Bessa and Nokton 50 1.1
Adorama took the non working camera back, no questions. Seems to be taking me a while to run a roll through this camera, but loving the feel of it in my hands. Do wish I could focus closer in to my subjects though.
Will be sure to post as I work with it.
Thank you so much for all the feedback.

Delighted that we came through for you - but do let me know if you need anything else.