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Q.G.
03-06-2010, 01:40 PM
Q.G.,

I did not repeat what you said. You said frequency range is measured in cycles per unit.[...]

I most certainly did not.

A discussion begins with taking in what the participants say, instead of assuming that they say what you hope/want they say.

So (and not to bore the other participants further), let's call it quits.
;)

2F/2F
03-06-2010, 05:12 PM
You are right about my misparaphrase, "You said frequency range is measured in cycles per unit". What you said, to which I was referring with my paraphrase, was, "Sharpness is nothing else but frequency range. [new paragraph] That's why, for instance, it is measured in modulations per unit." You also said, "Frequency range is frequency range. The thing a frequency range is a range of is frequency. Which is meassured in modulations per unit." My apologies for this misparaphrase. Please don't think it was on purpose.

As for your second paragraph, please........If I do anything but this it is a simple slip...and I think you know this.

Let us call it quits.

keithwms
03-06-2010, 10:46 PM
Q.G., 2F/2F, I assume that you are both familiar with the visual music genre; there are quite a few contributors to that and some of your ideas are likely implemented there.

Q.G.
03-07-2010, 05:40 AM
I know of that thing, yes.
But it is as far removed from what i was on about as color psychology is from attempts to make lenses apochromatic.

keithwms
03-07-2010, 07:13 AM
Well, if you consider these issues from the perspective of the viewer/listener...

clayne
03-07-2010, 07:19 AM
Which one of you has been sipping the Dektol tonight?

cbphoto
03-07-2010, 10:30 AM
Definitely not going to read this whole thread, but my initial reaction to the original question is: it sells equipment.

JustinBenttinen
04-29-2010, 12:18 AM
I think it is absolutely hilarious that this thread started off as a critique of the obsession with sharpness that some people have, and then turned into a discussion on the relative merits of using musical frequency as a good analogy to sharpness. My 2 cents: go shoot some photos.

paulie
04-29-2010, 04:00 AM
i sell lenses and cameras for my living, and yes especially digital people are obsessed with sharpness, i always tell them that most lenses are sharp, i dont know many that are not.

in fact finding good soft focus lenses is almost impossible unless your willing to use a filter/out of focus techs.

my personal lens collection is full of very old barrel lenses for 10x8 and 4x5, no shutters, and i crave personality , sharpness is not a issue for me.

oh how photography has changed

Ralph Javins
04-29-2010, 11:17 AM
Good morning;

Gee, if we are seeking possibly applicable useless analogies, could we also include clothing fads and fashions? At times it does seem that we are running around some small point of the subject. In the case of fashion, often it is not really the cloth, cut, and workmanship that goes into the garment, as much as it is what you stuff into it.

In our case with photography, our end goal is still the print or the transparency that will be displayed. How we get to that and what equipment we use is definitely of interest, but that all remains secondary to the end goal: What does the print look like, and does it strike a responsive chord in us?