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BenZucker
03-09-2010, 10:20 AM
Here is my question. When I scann film I fluid mount it to the scanner with Kami SMF 2001 scanner mounting fluid and scanning mylar, This usually provides uniform sharpness of the negative image, smooths the grain, and reduces dust all right off the bat with out doing any thing on the computer. So my question is this, could I mount the negative to a peace of glass and put this in the enlarger to print full frame? Would I end up with a melted mess of mylar and Kami oil? does any one have any experience with this? I ask because I don't have access to a glass neg carrier that I can print full frame...APUG, what are your thoughts?

David A. Goldfarb
03-09-2010, 10:38 AM
I haven't tried it, but it should work, if you can get everything clean before and after.

Edwal used to market a product called "No Scratch" (maybe they still make it) that was an oil you could brush on a neg to conceal a scratch, usually for use with an open neg carrier, and it was fairly effective for negs with fine scratches that would be hard to retouch.

Bob-D659
03-09-2010, 10:57 AM
The msds for Kami fluid is here: http://www.freestylephoto.biz/pdf/msds/kami_scanner_fluids/Kami%20Scanner%20Mounting%20Fluid.pdf

It will dry up pretty quickly in an enlarger due to the heat.

Mounting fluids do work, the best is to find one that is not too volatile, easily cleanable and has a refractive index close the the film base.

ic-racer
03-09-2010, 11:02 AM
No need to re-invent the wheel to do an enlargement: Two pieces of optical glass, one on top, one on bottom, no additional 'fluid.' It is a tried and true method for many years before the word scanner existed :)

fschifano
03-09-2010, 11:13 AM
I was thinking the same thing, until I read the OP's experience with dust suppression. That's always a good thing when you're using a glass negative carrier. The volatility of the fluid might make it useless or worse considering the heat of the enlarger, but with a cold light it might just work. This cold light need not be a florescent lamp either. The Chromega II lamp house on my D4 uses a very hot running 250 watt halogen lamp, but not much of that heat makes it to the negative stage. By contrast, the condenser system on my B600 warms the negative carrier up significantly more even though it runs a simple 75 watt enlarging bulb.

David A. Goldfarb
03-09-2010, 01:39 PM
On the other hand, you already get some dust and grain suppression with cold light, so you might not get much improvement by wet mounting.

rmolson
03-09-2010, 01:51 PM
Oil mounting


Use to oil mount transparencies for separation by floating them in a liquid carrier for an 8x10 Durst .We used the regular oil designed for it, but in a pinch mineral or un perfumed baby oil ,Messy but it worked don’t ask what the stuff was , that was nearly60 years ago.