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Gustavo_Castilla
04-26-2010, 10:28 AM
For sale Nikon D70 body
good clean condition
asking $250.00 plus shipping

photobizzz
04-26-2010, 12:37 PM
oh no! a digicam!

David A. Goldfarb
04-26-2010, 12:52 PM
It's okay in the "Misc." classifieds.

photobizzz
04-26-2010, 09:10 PM
I was just kidding around :)

brian steinberger
04-26-2010, 11:11 PM
It's amazing how much these digital SLRs depreciate. I remember paying $1200 for mine new in 2005. Kind of sad actually.

2F/2F
04-26-2010, 11:14 PM
It is not sad, except maybe for those who do not keep their equipment long before selling it...and even then it is not sad, because no one is forcing them to sell so soon/often!

For everyone else, it is great! A 10D, 20D, or D70 for just a few hundred bucks is a good deal! On an absolute level, they are no less good than they were when they were brand new...and even on a relative level, compared to the models that have replaced them, they still aren't that bad.

Gustavo_Castilla
04-26-2010, 11:27 PM
I paid 1250.oo for mine I am hoping to get a newer model NOT New just a bit newer

brian steinberger
04-26-2010, 11:40 PM
It is not sad, except maybe for those who do not keep their equipment long before selling it...and even then it is not sad, because no one is forcing them to sell so soon/often!

For everyone else, it is great! A 10D, 20D, or D70 for just a few hundred bucks is a good deal! On an absolute level, they are no less good than they were when they were brand new...and even on a relative level, compared to the models that have replaced them, they still aren't that bad.

I guess I just think it's sad because when we purchase our gear (film cameras) we are assured it will hold value. Hell I've bought into systems knowing that if it didn't work for me for whatever reason that I could still sell it and get my money back out of it. Digital is disposable. You buy a camera, then 3 to 5 years later you upgrade. That's what sad to me.

2F/2F
04-26-2010, 11:42 PM
The problem is with seeing tools as financial investments in any way, shape, or form. The value in a tool comes only through use. It is lack of use that makes a camera expensive, not poor resale values. You don't want to lose money on a camera? Simple. Don't sell it, shoot it a lot, and, best of all, use it to make money.

bblhed
05-25-2010, 01:52 PM
Here is the way I see it, my vision is probably not so good, but I will tell you what I think.

When film was king you could get away with keeping a camera body for a long time because your camera would get better as the film got better, Film makers made money and drew in new customers by making the film better and better. Camera makers kept money coming in by adding and dropping a few new cameras into and out of their line up every year or so.The only reason people bought cameras is because they wore out (Pros), there was a new gota have feature (Auto focus), they wanted something better (this point and shoot sucks), the old one was stolen, they broke the old one.

Now the film is integrated into the camera in the form of the sensor so if you want a better resolution photo you need a newer camera. Never mind that a 6MP camera can shoot a photo that can be printed 12 x 18 easily, no we need more resolution. I hate to say this, but until the sensor in a DSLR matches what 35mm film can do prices will keep doing what they are doing now. I think it is funny that people want better resolution, but the average casual photographer is going to get 4 X 6 prints, or only look at them on their computer screen that is not all that high res anyway. Pros are going to do big prints, and wear out equipment, but there is a limit to how large most pros will print, who really wants a 22 X 34 poster of themselves, really? Pros will probably take the hardest hit because prices will increase on a sharper curve as performance and price go up sharply every year, but you use up a camera in about a year or two, maybe three on the outside it's going to hurt. Eventually performance and price will hit a plateau and old digital will stabilize and prices for used equipment will be more like they were for film equipment before digital came along.

One thing really puzzles me in all this, I hear pros all the time say "I sold all my Nikon gear and went Cannon, then I sold all my Cannon gear and had to buy all new Nikon gear" Or the other way around. What is with this "ALL" my gear thing? I want to know why when you swap systems don't you keep your glass? Maybe not all of it, but at least keep the best, and hardest to replace stuff. You know you are lying when you say you will never go back, and even if you don't go back glass holds value better than a body, sell it in a better market, or at least wait until you are sure your staying. I was a mechanic for a lot of years so maybe that is my problem, mechanics never use the word sell when talking about their own tools, then again tools have played nice across systems starting with Snap-On in 1920, cameras not so much. Also I have ingrained in me the "as soon as I get rid of it I will need it" mentality.

moose10101
05-25-2010, 01:59 PM
I guess I just think it's sad because when we purchase our gear (film cameras) we are assured it will hold value. Hell I've bought into systems knowing that if it didn't work for me for whatever reason that I could still sell it and get my money back out of it. Digital is disposable. You buy a camera, then 3 to 5 years later you upgrade. That's what sad to me.

Good lenses seem to be holding their value quite nicely, and they often make up a significant portion of the photographer's investment.

Gustavo_Castilla
05-25-2010, 04:36 PM
who gives a shit !

aste
05-25-2010, 10:46 PM
who gives a shit !
Are you directing this at a particular post, or just making a general statement about life the universe and everything?

Dermot
08-03-2010, 07:52 PM
how is the poor man going to sell this camera with us all on here fussing about, BTW still have and use my d70 and think it's a wonderful camera. 250 is a great price if I didn't have one I'd take it, good luck with sale Gustavo.

Sirius Glass
08-03-2010, 08:36 PM
For sale Nikon D70 body
good clean condition
asking $250.00 plus shipping

Can I use it as a wheel chock to keep a car from rolling down hill? [Gustavo, I am helping you. Really. I just gave your ad a bump.;)]

Steve

LowriderS10
08-12-2010, 01:07 PM
It is not sad, except maybe for those who do not keep their equipment long before selling it...and even then it is not sad, because no one is forcing them to sell so soon/often!

For everyone else, it is great! A 10D, 20D, or D70 for just a few hundred bucks is a good deal! On an absolute level, they are no less good than they were when they were brand new...and even on a relative level, compared to the models that have replaced them, they still aren't that bad.

Amen! I'm always a couple of generations behind on purpose...When the Canon 30D came out, I was shooting with a 20D, when the 40D came out, I added a 30D to my collection, then a 10D. I ended up selling the 10D/20D and picked up another 30D...so, in the age of 50Ds, I'm shooting with a pair of bargain-priced 30Ds. The original owner of the 10D bought it for around $2,000 with taxes. I bought it off him with a grip, extra batteries, etc for $300...it was an amazing camera! I ended up selling it for $320 a year and a half later. The 20D I used for a couple of years and sold it for what I paid for it...and to this day miss it, it was an excellent camera. The 30Ds...well, I've always had a soft spot for them...I'll shoot them 'till the shutters drop out...even if by then Canon will be marketing their hyper-super-amazing 300MP 150D. ;)

I'm trying not to get off topic...hoping this will help the OP sell his camera haha. My point is: older gear can still be wicked quality and they tend to not lose their value much anymore, so if buy one, then change your mind, you'll likely make most of your money back.

SuzanneR
08-12-2010, 01:24 PM
This is ridiculous. People can offer for sale their digital gear in the Misc. section of the classifieds. It's tedious for the seller (and the rest of us) that every time someone lists a digital set up for sale that we start having all these tired film and digital arguments. That's what the soap box is for. Don't hijack someone's classified ad. It benefits APUG if he's able to sell it here.

Eric Rose
08-12-2010, 01:41 PM
I have a D70s and a D700. The D70s is an outstanding camera and makes wicked 11x14's, maybe bigger I haven't tried. The price is fair.

fotch
08-12-2010, 01:42 PM
Is it a D70 or the D70s?

st3ve
08-13-2010, 11:16 AM
I guess I just think it's sad because when we purchase our gear (film cameras) we are assured it will hold value.

I have a sales receipt for a Minolta XE-7 and 50/1.4 for $400 in mid-70s dollars that would disagree.

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