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L Gebhardt
05-24-2010, 12:29 PM
Alex;

You can buy a syringe here with an open end, but you cannot get the fine needle or anything that is related to it here in NYS. Too much regulation.

PE

I'm in NH as well, but I can buy syringes with blunt needles in various gauges at the local hardware store. They are in the plastics fabrication section. The needles are not sharp, just metal tubes cut square. I think it would hurt quite a bit to inject yourself with them, so they are legal. Maybe NY state allows them too.

Photo Engineer
05-24-2010, 12:43 PM
Thanks. That is one thing I had overlooked.

All of my syringes use Luer fittings which is a standard. Do these, or will I have to buy the syringe as well?

PE

alexhill
05-24-2010, 03:46 PM
I'm in NH as well, but I can buy syringes with blunt needles in various gauges at the local hardware store. They are in the plastics fabrication section. The needles are not sharp, just metal tubes cut square. I think it would hurt quite a bit to inject yourself with them, so they are legal. Maybe NY state allows them too.

The needles came with a 18 or 20 gauge needle on them. But for safety sake i'd go with the hardware store variety.

Kirk Keyes
05-24-2010, 06:47 PM
Hey, yeah! Blunt needles - I forgot about those...

L Gebhardt
05-24-2010, 11:45 PM
Thanks. That is one thing I had overlooked.

All of my syringes use Luer fittings which is a standard. Do these, or will I have to buy the syringe as well?

PE

They fit standard medical type syringes, but I'm not sure if these are Luer. I bought the blunt needles and they fit the medical type syringes I have.

Formulary/Bud Wilson
05-25-2010, 11:33 AM
Ron;
Here in Montana you can get veterinary needles off the shelf at local farm supply stores. That is where we get the non needle type syringes available from us for small quantity measurements. I'm not sure the guage of the needles but can check if you would like me to. Also if you need somemore silver nitrate or other material the Formulary is more than happy to support your important work. Maybe if more of the sponsors here on APUG would/could step up to the plate we could actually fund some R&D that will benefit the entire APUG community. If each of the 30,000+- members listed at top of APUG home page each sent in $1 think how far your research could go with $30,000.00. The Formulary is willing to be a collection/distribution place for PE's R&D $'s if anybody is interested.
Tell Suzi hi and the rock that broke her leg will be on the way to her very soon.
Bud

Formulary/Bud Wilson
05-25-2010, 11:39 AM
Ron;
Sorry I miss quoted. Apug has 41,345 members.
Bud

brianmquinn
05-25-2010, 12:31 PM
That’s a nice offer. I was getting to place an order and was going to try out some new products. I think I am going to skip stocking up on Kodak chemicals and order whatever I can from the Photographers Formulary to show my support.

Photo Engineer
05-25-2010, 12:52 PM
Bud;

Thanks for your kind offer. We look forward to the rock as well.

PE

alexhill
05-25-2010, 08:22 PM
Ron;
Here in Montana you can get veterinary needles off the shelf at local farm supply stores. That is where we get the non needle type syringes available from us for small quantity measurements. I'm not sure the guage of the needles but can check if you would like me to. Also if you need somemore silver nitrate or other material the Formulary is more than happy to support your important work. Maybe if more of the sponsors here on APUG would/could step up to the plate we could actually fund some R&D that will benefit the entire APUG community. If each of the 30,000+- members listed at top of APUG home page each sent in $1 think how far your research could go with $30,000.00. The Formulary is willing to be a collection/distribution place for PE's R&D $'s if anybody is interested.
Tell Suzi hi and the rock that broke her leg will be on the way to her very soon.
Bud


I order from you guys when i need chemicals. I would totally toss a dollar towards worthwhile research at the checkout as long as the results were open. I am a huge fan of open source business models.

I would never expect PE to donate his research for nothing, nor pretend that I have any business savy. But I am inspired by such incredible projects such as blender and gimp, not to mention linux, java... When information is spread around it creates a vibrant community and feeds creativity.

totalamateur
05-28-2010, 12:02 AM
++ On the Donate to research option in the formulary checkout.
had a huge reponse typed, but If you're reading this forum, you understand the need to pass around the knowledge.

Photo Engineer
05-28-2010, 09:40 AM
Any research I might do under such an arrangement would be totally open.

At present, I post as much as possible here anyhow, but have not given exact formulas for the reasons someone else stated above. I can't afford to give it away. OTOH, all of my students have all of the formulas up to date at the time of the class they took, plus some updates sent to them via e-mail. I have asked them not to publish them. They will be in the book.

PE

Formulary/Bud Wilson
05-28-2010, 11:02 AM
My idea of collecting and distribution of donations was not based on any requirement of having to buy something from the Formulary, IE "donation on check out".
I was just offering to be a collector/distributor of donations from anybody that wanted to donate, customer of Formulary or not. Ron doesn't have the ability for example to take a $5.00 donation via a credit card, I am just offering to make and keep it simple and continue Ron's work. I am also aware that Ron is working on a book and maybe something could be set up that the donations could be part of book price when and if book is available.
As most everyone on this forum is aware, Ron and the Formulary do have existing business relationships and are expected to continue.
So I am just throwing out an idea that mite help Ron/PE continue his work without undo financial burden. I also understand there are other people doing similiar and different work studies that can benefit the entire APUG community.
Lets keep chatting about it and see where it mite go.
Thanxs
Bud

alexhill
05-28-2010, 02:14 PM
I was just offering to be a collector/distributor of donations from anybody that wanted to donate, customer of Formulary or not.

Thats even better.


Any research I might do under such an arrangement would be totally open.

PE, you rock as usual