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Ektagraphic
09-17-2010, 03:38 PM
I went on the store and found the ISO 200 110 film that was there. I would place an order but with shipping, the order came to about $60 USD for on 4 rolls! I simply can't pay that for 110 film right now.

Thomas Bertilsson
09-19-2010, 08:27 AM
Not really in a hurry to get it, so no thanks. I was just curious to see how much it might cost, etc.


Would anyone be interested in a group buy to make the shipping costs more palatable? Of course, redistribution shipping once it got to one of our houses may very well eat up the savings on shipping from Europe. Kind of a Catch-22 there.

MB

perkeleellinen
09-20-2010, 04:49 AM
It's listed on ag-photographic already with an arrival date of October:

http://www.ag-photographic.co.uk/adox-pan-400-303-c.asp

clayne
09-20-2010, 07:32 PM
BTW, I know this elephant has kind of been hanging out in the corner, but Mirko, is APX 400 going to be the initial market test emulsion and then afterward are there plans for APX 100? I believe that most APX-heads want the 100 speed, however I'm still open to playing with either remanufactured emulsion. Thanks for the huge effort and dedication to getting this unique film back up on it's feet.

ADOX Fotoimpex
09-22-2010, 02:58 PM
Clayne,

we are making APX 400 now because there simply are no Agfa banktrupcy leftovers of this material. 80% of the market is still 35mm. With APX 100 beeing sold below 1,50 EUR / piece from infinite sources we canīt touch this film until this situation changes.

But yes, there are plans to remanufacture APX 100 ;)

Kind regards,

Mirko

ADOX Fotoimpex
09-22-2010, 03:29 PM
By confectioning, you are talking about getting the film into the cassettes? Also, is there still going to a color 110 film?

Patrick

We are talking about:

-trimming 35mm pancakes to 32mm in ultra high precision
-slitting 32mm in 2x16mm
-apllying the unique 110 perforation
-remanufacturing the cassette body, cover and spool
-remanufacturing the backing paper, choping the backing paper, cutting out the edge so the film stripe gets caught after the last frame
-spooling the backing paper together with the film into the feeding compartement
-attaching the end of the backing paper to the spool
-welding the casette shut
-packing the product
-labeling the product

Not trivial but dooable.

Yes colour, 200 ASA, B/W later.

Kind regards,

Mirko

Thomas Bertilsson
09-22-2010, 03:39 PM
Is that all? ;)

Sometimes it's hard to imagine what amount of work goes into making a roll of film.

Keep up the fabulous work, Mirko.

- Thomas


We are talking about:

-trimming 35mm pancakes to 32mm in ultra high precision
-slitting 32mm in 2x16mm
-apllying the unique 110 perforation
-remanufacturing the cassette body, cover and spool
-remanufacturing the backing paper, choping the backing paper, cutting out the edge so the film stripe gets caught after the last frame
-spooling the backing paper together with the film into the feeding compartement
-attaching the end of the backing paper to the spool
-welding the casette shut
-packing the product
-labeling the product

Not trivial but dooable.

Yes colour, 200 ASA, B/W later.

Kind regards,

Mirko

Ektagraphic
09-23-2010, 06:02 AM
Wow! That's quite a process. I believe I had read that the cassettes themselves are going to have to be assembled by hand...is that true? I really appreciate you guys over there at ADOX! You make some great products that others have dumped out the window. I don't want to sound pushy but what is the current projected date for this happening? What if you just used un-perforated 16mm film? Would you happen to know if this will be available in the US at Freestyle? Sorry for all of my questions but thanks so much for answering.

wblynch
10-05-2010, 02:41 PM
I would love to buy the APX 400 in 126 Instamatic cartridges. I know it's a lot to wish for.

Is it possible to offer 100ft bulk rolls of 35mm Non-Perforated? At least we can spool up our own.

Thanks Adox !!

tomasis
10-06-2010, 12:45 PM
Mirko, it is great that apx400 is being introduced! I guess this is similar to Tmax. How good is iso push ability up to 3200? (with D76 and rodinal)

I was meaning to ask you about other alternative. I think CHS 100 is very interesting, how about produce iso 400 of this? Is it possible? It would be nice to have choice similar to Trix which offers easy iso push ability with look of typical grains.

Anyway, Im excited for new things!

CGW
10-06-2010, 12:59 PM
Unless there's been a huge breakthrough/improvement in emulsion technology, 120 APX 400 doesn't compare very favorably with Kodak TMax400(TMY-2).

wblynch
10-06-2010, 01:29 PM
Unless there's been a huge breakthrough/improvement in emulsion technology, 120 APX 400 doesn't compare very favorably with Kodak TMax400(TMY-2).

It depends on what one wants in their image. It's also nice to have choices. One day (soon?) the big yellow K will decide they don't want to sell TMY-2 anymore and we will be glad there's APX 400.

"Variety is the spice of life" - author unkown

R gould
10-06-2010, 01:31 PM
I think we all owe a debt of gratetuide to Mirko for having faith in traditional photography and bringing out new materials, we might all be gratefull to have it one day,Richard

Ektagraphic
10-06-2010, 02:37 PM
I'm with R gould. I'm quite excited for any kind of new analog product that is not strictly lomo :-)

5stringdeath
10-06-2010, 02:58 PM
Mirko, it is great that apx400 is being introduced! I guess this is similar to Tmax. How good is iso push ability up to 3200? (with D76 and rodinal)

I was meaning to ask you about other alternative. I think CHS 100 is very interesting, how about produce iso 400 of this? Is it possible? It would be nice to have choice similar to Trix which offers easy iso push ability with look of typical grains.

Anyway, Im excited for new things!

I don't know about this new stuff, but APX400 in the old days was nothing like TMAX, which is why I loved it so :)

CGW
10-06-2010, 02:59 PM
It depends on what one wants in their image. It's also nice to have choices. One day (soon?) the big yellow K will decide they don't want to sell TMY-2 anymore and we will be glad there's APX 400.

"Variety is the spice of life" - author unkown

Indeed. Re: The Future. Your guess is no better than mine but I'm really more involved with the final image than in how it's captured. I doubt I'll be bothering with film if/when it becomes an artisanal product. I suspect Kodak will be around for a bit.

tomasis
10-06-2010, 03:10 PM
I don't know about this new stuff, but APX400 in the old days was nothing like TMAX, which is why I loved it so :)

ok maybe they are different. Im more concerned with look of grain. T-type grain (refined at smaller level) and classic grain (more groove), also ability to push ISO. I have used old apx400 and apx100 and find them indeed different as you said. They are hard to push over also.

2F/2F
10-06-2010, 03:12 PM
Thank you Mirko.

So, this batch is slower and foggier.

How much cheaper will it be than the emulsion that will eventually be used, and what speed is it in the end? 200/24?

MaximusM3
10-06-2010, 03:23 PM
ok maybe they are different. Im more concerned with look of grain. T-type grain (refined at smaller level) and classic grain (more groove), also ability to push ISO. I have used old apx400 and apx100 and find them indeed different as you said. They are hard to push over also.

VERY different indeed...APX400 is (was) ISO250 at best but the grain is superb in my opinion, especially with Rodinal.

clayne
10-06-2010, 05:26 PM
Indeed. Re: The Future. Your guess is no better than mine but I'm really more involved with the final image than in how it's captured. I doubt I'll be bothering with film if/when it becomes an artisanal product. I suspect Kodak will be around for a bit.

Might as well just pack up your stuff and go now then.

WRT to APX400, it's an entirely different film than TMY. APX has always been like that and that's why people like it.