View Full Version : XTOL type developer

07-30-2010, 05:36 PM
Just wonder if Ilford will produce a XTOL type developer in the future.

Ronald Moravec
11-25-2010, 06:46 AM
DDX works like Xtol on Delta 400. Those are the only two good developers for it in fact unlike previous generations of Delta 400. But I dislike liquid developers, specially ones without expiration dates and consumer can interpret.

11-25-2010, 08:08 AM
Why not just buy XTOL?

Alan Johnson
11-25-2010, 10:22 AM
The patent dates from 1998. How long do US Patents last?

11-25-2010, 11:11 AM
Fomadon Excel is an xtol developer than mixes to one liter instead of the kodak 5 liter packages. It works well for me ;)

11-25-2010, 11:19 AM
http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/xtol/index.html for some light reading. :)

11-25-2010, 11:49 AM
Even if there were no patent issues and there may not be eventually I would doubt if Ilford could compete with Kodak's Xtol price and it would have to in order to make it worthwhile.

I am a recent convert to Xtol from DDX. So far in the 400 film range I'd say it competes very well quality-wise with DDX and price-wise there's no contest. Xtol wins hands down.


11-25-2010, 02:42 PM
I feel the 5 liter solution is to much for me, Im not developing that much film. Also I like using quite fresh developer and Fomadon Excel gives me that in the 1 liter package.