View Full Version : XTOL type developer
Marvin
07-30-2010, 05:36 PM
Just wonder if Ilford will produce a XTOL type developer in the future.
Ronald Moravec
11-25-2010, 06:46 AM
DDX works like Xtol on Delta 400. Those are the only two good developers for it in fact unlike previous generations of Delta 400. But I dislike liquid developers, specially ones without expiration dates and consumer can interpret.
martinhughesireland
11-25-2010, 08:08 AM
Why not just buy XTOL?
Alan Johnson
11-25-2010, 10:22 AM
www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat5756271.pdf
The patent dates from 1998. How long do US Patents last?
StigHagen
11-25-2010, 11:11 AM
Fomadon Excel is an xtol developer than mixes to one liter instead of the kodak 5 liter packages. It works well for me ;)
Jerevan
11-25-2010, 11:19 AM
http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/xtol/index.html for some light reading. :)
Sirius Glass
11-25-2010, 11:20 AM
Why not just buy XTOL?
Exactly my thoughts.
Steve
pentaxuser
11-25-2010, 11:49 AM
Even if there were no patent issues and there may not be eventually I would doubt if Ilford could compete with Kodak's Xtol price and it would have to in order to make it worthwhile.
I am a recent convert to Xtol from DDX. So far in the 400 film range I'd say it competes very well quality-wise with DDX and price-wise there's no contest. Xtol wins hands down.
pentaxuser
StigHagen
11-25-2010, 02:42 PM
I feel the 5 liter solution is to much for me, I´m not developing that much film. Also I like using quite fresh developer and Fomadon Excel gives me that in the 1 liter package.
Sirius Glass
11-25-2010, 03:05 PM
I have used one package of XTOL in the replenished mode for two years. That is a lot of staying power for a developer and it does keep the cost down.
I feel the 5 liter solution is to much for me, I´m not developing that much film.
Ah ... now there is the real problem. Get out there and shoot more film! Kodak, Ilford, Fuji, ... et al are depending on you! :)