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Vaughn
08-04-2010, 10:32 PM
MAAN (much ado about nothing)
MAAN (much ado about nothing)
But then, how come that "case" got onto the blog of a professional? photography magazine.
First I thought that was an American issue of intolerance, the kind of glimpse of a man regarding as sexual insult kind of thing.
But the reaction of many other member showed me it isn't.
Vaughn
08-05-2010, 09:57 AM
But then, how come that "case" got onto the blog of a professional? photography magazine.
First I thought that was an American issue of intolerance, the kind of glimpse of a man regarding as sexual insult kind of thing.
But the reaction of many other member showed me it isn't.
Entertainment value? I mean, "Alex" is one pretty lady and she gave quite a professional performance in her video...it sounded/looked more like a promo tape for an acting job.
jacarape
08-05-2010, 10:36 AM
I got to the point in the video where she didn't quit at having the photog insist on calling her Alex.
Sirius Glass
08-05-2010, 11:18 AM
:munch::munch::munch::munch::munch::munch::munch:: munch::munch:
perkeleellinen
08-05-2010, 11:22 AM
It was a very odd video. Firstly, why even make such a thing if you decide not to 'out' the photographer in question? Unless, that is, the photographer is so universally famous that the name "A" is enough for us to know it's Annie Leibovitz making this gossip-worthy information that's important enough to be picked up by mainstream photo sites. Seemingly the intern was desperate to share this partial gossip with the world rather than keep in with her circle of friends which would be the case for any other weird account of interning.
Mainecoonmaniac
08-05-2010, 11:37 AM
I wonder if assisting for pay is better than interning for free. For some people, not paying for a service or a product reduces the perceived value. If I interned for free, I'd expect some knowledge and respect for my sweat. After all, we all had to start from the bottom and want to be treated well.
JBrunner
08-05-2010, 11:42 AM
An apparently successful attempt at viral marketing for fame, fortune and a good job. She's every bit as narcissistic, calculating, and shrewd as "A", and will no doubt land on her feet, unlike the dead cat-sicle.
chriscrawfordphoto
08-05-2010, 12:25 PM
An apparently successful attempt at viral marketing for fame, fortune and a good job. She's every bit as narcissistic, calculating, and shrewd as "A", and will no doubt land on her feet, unlike the dead cat-sicle.
That's not why she did it. She made the video to enter a contest (which required video entry) for "worst internship experience", with the winner getting a $500 gift card to Macy's. I wish people had the intelligence to read before they start spouting off about something they know nothing about. Its so much more fun to slam someone you don't know, isn't it?
Be fair to us ignorant people.
I wish people had the intelligence to read before they start spouting off about something they know nothing about.
Where could we find that information about a contest?
I did not even see that there was a video (blocked by my computer).
perkeleellinen
08-05-2010, 12:58 PM
I am also guilty of having a lack of intelligence. I read the page linked to in the original post and also read the comments and info on the intern's youtube page. But no information was given about the monetary motivation for the video.
Vaughn
08-05-2010, 01:00 PM
Ahhh...one has to click on the link in the PDN article to find that out. So that is why it looked so rehearsed.. and also why little things are exaggerated to make it sound like a big deal.
Here is the link in the PDN article...
http://www.rachelhulin.com/blog/2010/07/the-plight-of-the-unpaid-photo-intern-continues.html
JBrunner
08-05-2010, 01:07 PM
That's not why she did it. She made the video to enter a contest (which required video entry) for "worst internship experience", with the winner getting a $500 gift card to Macy's. I wish people had the intelligence to read before they start spouting off about something they know nothing about. Its so much more fun to slam someone you don't know, isn't it?
I guess my life isn't vacuous enough that I clicked every link on the page. Oh well.
Galah
08-05-2010, 07:55 PM
...they did not mistreat me as a worker or as a human being in any way.
you mean, they didn't try to stick you in their freezer? :D
That's not why she did it. She made the video to enter a contest (which required video entry) for "worst internship experience", with the winner getting a $500 gift card to Macy's. I wish people had the intelligence to read before they start spouting off about something they know nothing about. Its so much more fun to slam someone you don't know, isn't it?
Um, "Alex" is slamming, publicly, the woman who gave her an elite and sought-after internship. And in such a way that the woman is transparently identifiable.
One of the best pieces of advice I ever got was "never say anything negative about your previous employer" when interviewing for another job. It just makes you look bad. Slamming your employer in an internet video takes that to the next level. I wouldn't hire either of them.
-Laura
lxdude
08-06-2010, 12:04 AM
Geez, my first job was scrubbing pots, mopping floors and cleaning bathrooms in my Dad's restaurant. Good thing I didn't have to tickle someone's feet instead. How could I have handled that? :rolleyes:
Vaughn
08-06-2010, 01:10 AM
I was an unpaid assistant to a major photographer during a internationally known workshop. What was I assigned to do -- scrub his floor and pack some prints away. Did I complain -- no. Instead I worried that I might have put too many prints in the boxes.
He did say that he would send me one of his prints...Almost 30 years later I am still waiting for the print...:D
Vaughn
chriscrawfordphoto
08-06-2010, 01:49 AM
I guess my life isn't vacuous enough that I clicked every link on the page. Oh well.
It was vacuous enough that you took time from your day to slam someone you do not know. If you're going to say something nasty about someone you should at least know what you're commenting on. That's basic courtesy. Think the "Golden Rule". Would you want someone calling you the names you called this girl based on false assumptions because the person commenting didn't know what he was really commenting on? I wouldn't :cool:
Vaughn
08-06-2010, 02:42 AM
But Chris, Mr. Brunner seems to be very close in his assessment of the situation, and of the woman in question, despite not having all the facts. The video itself supports most of his contentions. Just because it was a "contest" does not validate her video. It was a very slick presentation, thought out and rehearsed...the head-tossing, hand gestures, eye-movements, tone of voice, and script.
The purpose of the video was to put herself in the best possible light and the photographer in the worst possible light for monetary gain (and a bit of fame). The photographer has no chance to give us her side of the story, nor do we have any proof of the validity of the intern's side of the story.
Of course, trashing other people for fun and profit is nothing new, and people have made a good living at it for centuries. But that does not mean that one should condone the practice.
lxdude
08-06-2010, 04:33 AM
Poor Sophia. She goes to work for an artiste who she discovers is a little weird. She doesn't like her new nickname. She's an intern who doesn't want to follow directions. It's a tough world out there.
That's OK though. She's just saying all this to get a $500 gift card.
I notice below the video it says it's NOT Annie Liebovitz. Maybe "S" should have made the effort to go beyond the first letter of the alphabet.