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munz6869
01-04-2011, 02:56 AM
I'm keen too, now I have my new darkroom operational... printing is 16% more satisfying with the "commodore 64" of enlarger controllers...

Marc!

Seabird
01-04-2011, 05:52 AM
I will put my hand up to manage the print distribution this round and I will start the new round three thread as well, if no one objects by the end of the week. Whatever the agreed method of running the exchange will be accommodated.



Hi Oxleyroad,

Thanks for your offer, but have you discussed this with timk? Do you have his confirmation that he no longer wants to organise the exchanges? I, for one, have been happy with his management of the process to date, and I note that in both exchanges the delays were not of his making. (I know that I would have been far less likely to protect the names of the "laggards" - and there but for the grace of God...)

I applaud your offer and dont wish to discourage you, but also dont want to timk to feel someone is stepping on his turf - particularly if he is happy to continue. Isn't your generous offer premature until timk has confirmed he wishes to withdraw?

Thoughts? Timk?

Cheers

Carey Bird
http://members.iinet.net.au/~cbird/index.html

hoffy
01-06-2011, 08:43 PM
I suppose we need to ask the next question......does anyone else actually want to continue with the exchanges?

munz6869
01-06-2011, 08:51 PM
I think they're an awesome idea, and am happy to participate! Impatience & frustration is tempered (eventually, I trust) by the excitement of seeing other folks' stuff!

Marc!

Tony Egan
01-06-2011, 10:18 PM
I suppose we need to ask the next question......does anyone else actually want to continue with the exchanges?

On reflection, I probably won't participate if the "rules" are the same.
I think 9/10 prints is too many. I opted for 8x10 RC paper to cut down the time and expense and meet the size guidance. I'd prefer to make 3 and no more than 4 fibre prints on 11x14 and put more time and energy into a quality archival print. i.e. produce what I typically make and enjoy the most rather than "compromising".

Also inkjet prints don't interest me much. I like to see what people are doing in the silver and alternative media so I can learn and appreciate how others do it. If I want to admire inkjets I can always rejoin a camera club ;)

But, then again, I might change my mind after actually seeing some prints!

Ian David
01-07-2011, 12:45 AM
I suppose we need to ask the next question......does anyone else actually want to continue with the exchanges?

Not in their present form.

FWIW, I think the exchange needs:
1. A pretty firm deadline;
2. A clear indication to everyone of which, if any, prints are missing. If people have a good reason for being late, they should share it with everyone. And people who have sent their prints would probably like to know that they have arrived.
3. Regular updates from the organiser. Organising these things is a commitment too. Apologies to Tim if he is in jail or hospital, but the current radio silence is pretty unsatisfactory.

Ian

tomalophicon
01-07-2011, 02:00 AM
Yes, I'd be more than happy to continue the exchange if people are willing to play by the rules.

w9cae
01-07-2011, 02:16 AM
Glad other have the exact same feelings as I. Being new to analog photography, print exchange gave me a goal & a deadline. But this was only meet with disappointment. I am not going to point a finger but you know who you are guilty.

hoffy
01-07-2011, 03:26 AM
OK, do you guys have any suggestions? Should it be a rolling exchange, with less prints or a set date, ect?

Oxleyroad
01-07-2011, 03:57 AM
Great to see us thinking about we want.

As mentioned before I like the is exchange as I like the anticipation of what I will get back in the post. The standard of prints coming back (from the first exchange anyway) made me rethink a little of what I need to be doing. It also forces me to meet the timing dead lines of the round.

Having a rolling schedule like the post card exchange (not necessarily the same timing) works for me.

I can't come at what Tony is suggesting as I have so few sheets of paper bigger than 8x10 and to participate I would have to go out and buy some. But would go with doing fewer prints if this would get the exchange rolling again.

I also go along with what Ian suggested in his three points.

I have tried contacting Tim through PM, I guess I could go knocking on his door to find out what the status is for exchange #2, but have not had any response in the last few days.

I did say I would kick off a new thread today if there was no objections, but as I have not head from Tim as yet I'll wait for his blessing. Any one from the Melbourne Camera Club got a means of contacting Tim?

w9cae
01-07-2011, 08:25 AM
The Traditional group @ the MCC will meet on Monday 24 January. Tim is one of the co chairs, so he should be there ?

As always any APUG or new comers are welcome to attend. I will try to tactfully approach Tim & get some info on the print exchange.

There is also an antique camera outing in Williams town next sunday. He could turn up there also ? I plan on a quick visit as I have other commitments on the day also.

Beyond that I dont know what to say ?

Tony Egan
01-07-2011, 03:56 PM
I can't come at what Tony is suggesting as I have so few sheets of paper bigger than 8x10 and to participate I would have to go out and buy some. But would go with doing fewer prints if this would get the exchange rolling again.


I wasn't suggesting everyone else should print bigger. I'd be happy to receive a 4x5 contact print in return if that's someone's thing.

hoffy
01-07-2011, 04:05 PM
The idea behind the 8x10 size was to make it more manageable when it came to postage.

SteveR
01-09-2011, 04:34 AM
Well, after chatting with Carey a little while back and trying to work out just what it was my images were lacking, I bought myself some selenium toner recently. This afternoon I had a chance to have a crack at it, do some tests and see if I could start to fill in the gap between where my prints are, and where I want them to be.

It was pretty successful, I have to say. However, comparing a toned and un-toned version of the print I submitted for the exchange, I have to say, I'm not happy with what you're all going to see!

So, Tim, if you reckon it's going to be more than another week 'till the prints get sent out, let me know and I'll pop 'round and grab mine so I can tone them before they get shared :P

timk
01-10-2011, 12:53 AM
Hi all,

Firstly let me apologise profusely for being MIA for a while, I know there is no excuse but I had a rough couple of weeks in December and then went away with family over xmas and new years

I am fully back on board as of this week.

Now, the update on the exchange is that I'm still waiting on prints from andrewkirkby. I'm not sure if you haven't sent the prints or not but if you have / havent please contact me asap

Other than that, Group 1 is ready to go out, group 2 is just waiting on Andrew.

What's everyone's preference, if I cut out andrew and move someone from group 1 into group2 (I'm happy to volunteer to move groups).

Will wait until this evening and if no-one has replied either way, I'll move myself into group 2 and then send the prints out.

And again, so sorry I didn't intend the prints to be outstanding for this long.

TK

Kevin Caulfield
01-10-2011, 01:05 AM
Thanks for the update, Tim. :) Looking forward to seeing some prints.

timk
01-10-2011, 01:17 AM
I feel like I've let everyone down, I'll include a copy of a postcard exchange print I did a while back as I have some spares!!

w9cae
01-10-2011, 04:27 AM
Welcome back Tim Happy New year

Oxleyroad
01-10-2011, 04:40 AM
Good to hear you're alive and well Tim.

As no one else is/has put their hand up and Tim has let me know he was going to ask if someone else could run with the running of the print exchanges I still have my hand up;) Will get onto this again in separate message

Andrew Kirkby - have you your prints already been left with the postman like you indicated they would be in your last message back on the 31st Dec?

So what do we do with the missing prints from Andrew? As he had initially mentioned he was looking at Ilfochromes and that he is also in my group I'd say Tim send of group ones' packages, and hold on for Andrew's to complete the second group of prints unless he advises us otherwise. I am happy to wait longer for the prints as it has been a long while now, so what is another week or a month:whistling:

What we all need to do now come up with a common agenda for how we proceed for round three - yippee.

Seabird
01-10-2011, 06:00 AM
Hi all,

... I had a rough couple of weeks in December and then went away with family over xmas and new years

What's everyone's preference, if I cut out andrew and move someone from group 1 into group2 (I'm happy to volunteer to move groups).

...

And again, so sorry I didn't intend the prints to be outstanding for this long.

TK

Timk,

Good to hear from you.

I trust you've recovered from your rough December and that the time with family was therapeutic (clearly you dont know my family...) Forget about December. It's gone. Look forward to the New Year!:)

As for the prints: my preference is that you hold group 2 and send group 1 - but only because I'm in group 1 :D. I understand if you decide to hold all until andrewkirkby's prints are to hand (sounds as though they must be close).

Clearly the delay is not of your making so no need to feel too bad about what has happened. It does, however, highlight the issue and whether/how we address it for future exchanges.

Regards

Carey Bird
http://members.iinet.net.au/~cbird/index.html