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daleeman
09-30-2010, 05:45 AM
I plan to publish a number of post on staying safe when outside for some time. I should be able to combine all these tips into a single document to forward to people just before we start out to the Frozen Film shoot.

We all need to think about a few things in this order:
• Be Safe, Watch Over Your Body in Cold Weather
• Be Safe and Watch Over Your Hiking Partner (Always Hike in Groups of 2 or More)
• Be Safe and Watch Out for Your Equipment
• Bring Back Master Pieces

The University of Iowa Hospitals& Clinics published these tips. Web link below.

Winter weather can be nasty and two of the meanest winter culprits are hypothermia and frostbite. Hypothermia--When your body is unable to maintain a core temperature of 95 degrees F, you begin to shiver, your speech slurs, your breathing slows, your skin is cold and pale, your coordination suffers, and you are lethargic and apathetic. Young children, the elderly, and the ill are the most vulnerable.

Wet, damp clothing, an uncovered head, and inadequate clothing can contribute to hypothermia. Other conditions that make an individual susceptible include excessive consumption of alcohol, cardiovascular disease, and an underactive thyroid.

To treat hypothermia, bring the person out of the cold. Remove wet clothing and replace it with warm, dry clothing. Wrap the person in blankets. Call 911 for emergency assistance. Provide a warm drink--do not give the person alcohol.

"Persons pulled from icy water should lay still, be dried and covered. Movement of the extremities can cause cold blood to return to the heart, resulting in a life-threatening change in cardiac rhythm," says Eric W. Dickson, M.D., director of the Emergency Medicine Program at UI Hospitals and Clinics.

Frostbite--Skin on fingers, toes, earlobes, cheeks, and noses are the most vulnerable to prolonged exposure to freezing temperatures, wet clothes, and forceful winds. Blood vessels near the surface of the skin constrict to preserve internal body heat, reducing blood flow to the skin. The result is frostbite. Frostbite ranges from white or yellowish skin accompanied by itching or burning sensations, numbness, and in the most severe cases, blistering.

To treat frostbite, bring the person out of the cold. Remove wet or constricting clothing, including jewelry. Call 911 for emergency assistance. DO NOT rub frostbitten areas or apply direct heat.

Unknown. (2005) Take Precautions to Protect Yourself in Cold Weather. University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics. Retrieved on September 30 2010. Accessed from http://www.uihealthcare.com/news/news/2005/01/03chill.html

daleeman
11-08-2010, 07:00 PM
Greetings all.
After looking at a great number of different cabins, B&B and other locations Sue and I have chosen to stay at the Baymont Hotel just about at the intersection of Rt 33 and Rt 664.
Baymont Inn and Suites Logan
12819 State Route 664 South
Logan, OH 43138 US
Phone: 740-385-1700
Fax:740-385-9288

The hotel has nice amenities and is reasonably priced. Deciding factors were
Plowed Roads (33 and 664) Depending on heavy show.
Close location to medical facilities
Restaurants in the area
Web access, ( I am in an online class at that time)
Free breakfasts
Indoor pool and hot tub
Trippe AAA discounts
Easy location to leave from and head home on Sunday.

Logan is 12 miles to the north of Old Mans Cave. Considering the probable weather it will be more than a 20 minute drive, no chance of getting up to highway speeds on Rt 664. Add snow and slow down, way down, but it is close enough to stage from. They do have meeting rooms. I will looks see if we can squat in them without charge.

Hope you can join us. Spread the word.

Lee

daleeman
11-16-2010, 07:00 AM
Greetings all.
After looking at a great number of different cabins, B&B and other locations Sue and I have chosen to stay at the .......

UPDATE: :whistling: "New Frozen Film HQ"

While Sue and I were down there on 11/12 & 13 we did a walk through of the Baymont and the Holiday Inn as well. Upon looking at the common areas like the lobby pools and more and the size of the room we decided to change our stay to:

Holiday Inn.
Hocking Hills-logan
12916 Grey St,
Logan,OHIO
United States 43138
Hotel Front Desk : 740-385-7700

The rooms were just about 50% bigger as far as we could see. They all had mini frig and microwave, coffee pots as did the Baymont rooms but just bigger, well lit and larger lobby area to gather. The breakfasts were Much Better at the H.I. too. Holiday Inn has a "same day by 6pm" cancelation policy, Baymond has a 24hr prior cancelation policy, so if you change your mind the day of, you pay the piper.

This is not to discount the hundreds of cabins avaiable in the area with hot tubs and full kitchens. We just do not have a 4x4 vehicle to take on some of the "driveways" if not plowed (We are looking for a snowy trip).

We had a great time. We went to Old Mans Cave, Lower Falls, Rock House (My Favorite) and we also visited something new for me, Natural Bridge. Not part of Hocking Hills State Park, but a very nice much like Natural Bridge KY. Really loved the Natural Bridge.

Look for photos in my next post, not as fast as I used to be... I'll place a link to my smugmug account.

Stay Cool, See You in the Snow.
Lee

daleeman
11-17-2010, 03:59 AM
You can find some of the images Sue and I took just this last weekend.
http://leegephart.smugmug.com/Art

See you in the snow.

Lee

Jeff Bannow
11-17-2010, 10:48 AM
Looks like the area has lots of potential. Looking forward to the trip.

htimsdj
11-17-2010, 10:55 AM
Lee -

Your photos show that you went to many of the same places I did.


Jeff -

There is quite a bit to do in the area - we actually have a number of photographs taken in the area that were made by a local photographer. I think there are opportunities to photograph during all times of the year.

Jeff

daleeman
11-17-2010, 06:06 PM
Jeff,
I'd love to see more of your images of H.H..

Your right there are a hand full of spectacular sights there. This was my first time at Natural Bridge, funny I've been going there since the pony tail reached the middle of my back in the 70s, but I think I forgot that....:p
So I think it was my first time at the bridge.

There had been no rain in about 2 weeks there, so there was no water falls at Natural Bridge or the Lower Falls or even flowing under Old Man's Cave. Was the water running when you were there?

Lee


Lee -

Your photos show that you went to many of the same places I did.


Jeff -

There is quite a bit to do in the area - we actually have a number of photographs taken in the area that were made by a local photographer. I think there are opportunities to photograph during all times of the year.

Jeff

htimsdj
12-09-2010, 03:15 PM
Lee - It was quite dry when we were there. A park ranger took us on a hike of Cedar Falls, and he referred to it as Cedar Trickle. Ash Cave had no water coming over the lip; Old Man's Cave had water flowing below, but not much.

Here is one photograph from our trip, on Kodachrome: http://flic.kr/p/8PeTjb

I'll scan more and post them later.

Looking forward to the February trip - it should be a good time for black and white photography.

Jeff

jpreston
12-11-2010, 02:45 AM
Hello! New to Apug, but would be interested in the Hocking trip. Once all of the details are finalized I'll check my work schedule. I've been there a couple of times, but never with film. Hoping to have an RB or RZ 67 by then!!!

Jeff from Marysville

daleeman
12-17-2010, 05:56 AM
Hello! New to Apug, but would be interested in the Hocking trip. Once all of the details are finalized I'll check my work schedule. I've been there a couple of times, but never with film. Hoping to have an RB or RZ 67 by then!!!

Jeff from Marysville

Jeff,
Glad to have you come. Its good to have some people with us who have been there as well. Good luck on obtaining the RB or RZ67. Stay in touch

Lee

daleeman
12-28-2010, 01:41 PM
Happy New Year !
2011 is almost here and it is time to start shooting out in the cold weather. My hats off to the folks in the east coast right now who have in some places up to three feet of snow. My thought and prayers are with them that they stay safe and warm.

In preparation for the Frozen Film Shoot I look for and find some real gems about cold weather hiking, staying warm and safe. Some very important advice was found at the Trails.com web site. They speak about layering cloths to keep warm and staying away from cotton clothing. Hard to keep me out of my jeans but safety in the cold is paramount. Here is what they published on layering clothing.

“Hiking is an enjoyable activity in any weather. By following a few, simple winter hiking tips, you are in for a treat! These tips are designed to keep you safe, comfortable and going strong in a weather that scares off a lot of fellow outdoor enthusiasts. Since winter hiking has its very own set of rules and associated needs, it is a good idea to fully familiarize yourself with the suggested items you need. Make certain that they are serviceable and pack the night before the hike


Step 1
Dress in layers. Choose a number of clothing articles you can take off and put back on independently. Wear a pair of long johns made from polypropylene over which you wear a pair of pants made of a lightweight, water proof and breathable material. A good choice is the Schoeller Dryskin fabric that is offered on the Trails website (a link is listed with the resources). On top, start out with a short sleeved t-shirt---also made of polypropylene--top it with long sleeved thin fleece shirt, add a turtleneck sweater and finish up with a jacket made from Schoeller Dryskin material.
Step 2
Remember to dress the head. Pick out a balaclava since it is perfect for keeping nose and ears protected from wind, snow and rain. It also prevents the heat loss from the head, which is a danger during longer winter hikes. Add sun goggles to protect your eyes from sunlight as well as wind.
Step 3
Choose a backpack made of breathable material. Avoid the sweaty back and the sore shoulders by investing in an all weather backpack made of breathable material. A good example is the Deuter Futura 28 Daypack that is large enough to carry a thermos, canteen, excess clothing as you shed it along the winter hike, food, extra vapor barrier socks, extra gloves, and assorted odds and ends.
Step 4
Wear cold weather hiking boots and vapor barrier socks. Choose an insulated, water proof boot that is not made from leather but is instead made of a plastic and rubber combination. Leather freezes in winter weather, while plastic and rubber will not. You can make your already broken in leather boots work by waterproofing them with spray-on chemicals, but you might want to add plastic gaiters to add moisture resistance to your footwear. Dress your foot in vapor barrier socks to prevent excessive sweating that makes the inside of your boot slippery and uncomfortable.
Step 5
Bring food and water. Remember that during a winter hike your body burns more calories and requires more nourishment and water than it might during a summer hike. Bring plenty of food and plan on stopping frequently and replenishing your energy by eating moderately sized snacks. Plan on bringing along a gallon of drinking water; depending on the length of your hike, you might even drink more than that. If you keep a canteen in addition to the water supply in your backpack, carry the canteen upside down. “


Tips & Warnings

Carry your canteen upside down on winter hikes. Water freezes in a bottle from the top down, and if you carry the canteen upside down, it is actually the bottom where the water freezes, not the mouth of the canteen.

Avoid cotton when choosing your clothes. When cotton gets wet, it takes a long time to dry. Wet cotton also freezes quickly and--whether it is sweat or simply moisture from snow or rain---becomes useless almost immediately for the hike.


Read more at Trails.com: Winter Hiking Tips | Trails.com http://www.trails.com/how_54_winter-hiking-tips.html#ixzz19R9CWsxX

Other Tips
Tips & Warnings

Taylor cautions against overdressing, as it could cause overheating. "If you're comfortable at the trail head, you're going to end up sweating as you travel, and being wet will lower your core temperature. A little sweat is okay, but once you're wet, you're in trouble," he says.

Its a rule of thumb not to use cotton when layering-"No cotton!" Taylor emphasized, adding that "cotton retains moisture, drying slowly rather than allowing it to evaporate."


Read more at Trails.com: How to Layer Clothes for Winter Hikes | Trails.com http://www.trails.com/how_29143_layer-clothes-winter-hikes.html#ixzz19R9PXdsX

jpreston
12-31-2010, 02:02 PM
My RB Pro S kit with 90mm & 180mm lenses is on it's way:D ! Any dates being kicked around for the shoot?

daleeman
01-09-2011, 11:02 AM
My RB Pro S kit with 90mm & 180mm lenses is on it's way:D ! Any dates being kicked around for the shoot?

We would love to have you. Dates are Feb 11, 12 & 13. Lots of details in the threads. We should have a full schedule ready in a week.

We were just there yesterday to check out one more location to go and a place to warm up and eat lunch on Saturday our longest day out in the elements.

More in the next post.

Lee

daleeman
01-09-2011, 11:04 AM
Yesterday Sue and I made a pilgrimage to Hocking Hills area to do some exploring. It was about 12 degrees F and winds there were gusting up to 15 mph on occasion. Our journey was to check out a “Permit Access Only” location called Saltpetre Cave Nature Preserve. We contacted the Ohio Department of Natural Resources and obtained permits to hike and photograph in this area as well as a parking permit to park in the very limited pull over spot. We found great caves; water falls frozen in time and no tourists. Images soon!

Saturday’s Lunch will be at the Grouse Nest Restaurant at the Hocking Hills Resort. This is a great small company offering a yearlong restaurant, cabins, wedding chapel and reception hall. We had a great lunch there Saturday and we hope you all will join us there to warm up, have a beer or coke and a hearty lunch. More information at: http://www.ashcave.com/index.htm

We would like everyone going to follow this link and download the PDF request for access form, fill it in and mail it or fax to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources. You must do this more than 14 days before our journey. Please place both Saltpetre Caves and Sheick Hallow in your request for access. http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/tabid/863/Default.aspx The Caves will be on out primary places to visit. You will need to have your permit.

Sue and I were covered head to tow with the warmest things we owned. Polar Tech base layers, face masks and multiple layers; we were warm. We also hiked with our trekking poles for balance while moving along the trails. A base layer of ice with up to 3 inches of show on top made the trails challenging but beautiful. Roads were passable although I almost carved off the right side of my car as we slid down a huge hill, so caution while driving and hiking is very paramount.

We will form up the hiking schedule very soon for the Frozen film Shoot. Those who commit to go and PM me will get the completed schedule.

PLEASE PM ME IF YOU ARE JOINING US. Just in case we need to help in some way please provide your names, addresses and phone (cell) numbers. * cell phone coverage there is very spotty at best but it helps to keep connected.

Also, we do this because we love the area, we are not professional tour guides and can only share some of the beauty we have found there, so be safe, stay on the trails and know we cannot and do not accept liability for your safety. Just be safe we will all have a COOL TIME.

Lee

daleeman
01-09-2011, 11:22 AM
Sue and I saw 12 turkeys yesterday and red tail hawks too.

jpreston
01-20-2011, 02:22 AM
Dang, I have to work on the 12th. I might be able to just drive down for the 13th, though. Will I still need the permits for Saltpetre Caves and Sheick Hallow?

Jeff

daleeman
01-20-2011, 04:04 AM
Dang, I have to work on the 12th. I might be able to just drive down for the 13th, though. Will I still need the permits for Saltpetre Caves and Sheick Hallow?

Jeff

Jeff,
There are so many places to photograph there you will have plenty of places to shoot. Sue and I will be going into the preserves area and for those yes you need to file a permit. (They are worth it and free)
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/tabid/863/Default.aspx
We are faxing our permits in today to Ms. Judyi Love at DNR Ohio. Normally USPS is fine.

Today and tomorrow, we finish the trecking plans and post here. We plan to PM a lot of folks on APUG to do a personal invite as well. Keep you on the list.

Dayton Ohio to Cincinnati will get up to 5" of snow today, I will be watching how SE Ohio weather goes to see how it will add to its snow base.

Lee

daleeman
01-20-2011, 04:20 AM
A neg scan from 645 neg on a HP G4050 is hardly a good representation of the real silent beauty of such a secluded place. Thought you all might like to see this shot of the permit controlled area of Hocking Hills.
Lee

jpreston
01-20-2011, 12:03 PM
Sounds good Lee. I'm about 90 minutes Northeast of you in Marysville. Looks like we're in for the snow as well. I'll send in the permit request so I'll have it just in case.

Thanks,

Jeff

daleeman
01-20-2011, 01:28 PM
Sounds good Lee. I'm about 90 minutes Northeast of you in Marysville. Looks like we're in for the snow as well. I'll send in the permit request so I'll have it just in case.

Thanks,

Jeff

Great. I made my request for Friday through Sunday, daylight hours, sent it in by fax to 614-265-7202.

Snowing good here in Dayton right now. I'll take a look and see if any is building up in the South East Ohio. We have a couple of weeks yet but the more the better.

Lee