Wow! I just got a screwdriver that is perfect for reaching up into the Panoram (or tight spots on other things) without having to reach up in there with thumb and forefinger to turn a tiny screwdriver. I got on FleaBay, hit the Advanced Search button, and typed in "right angle screwdriver".
The thing came up with several ratchet types and a couple of those Z-shaped "bent" screwdrivers, then I spotted something that looked like a ordinary screwdriver with a black ball on the end. Well, I bought one, and just got it in today.
That ball on the end contains a pair of bevel gears that drive a standard 1/4" hex bit socket in a 1:1 ratio approx. 90 degrees from the direction of the screwdriver handle & shaft. The socket is magnetic to hold the bit in place. The tool comes with 2 phillips & 2 slotted bits, and the small slotted bit was a perfect fit on those 4 screws inside my 4C practice camera.
I played with it with fanatical glee, taking out and putting back those screws several times, then used it to open up and CLA two Packard shutters . . . of course the 4 screws holding them together are right out in the open, but that didn't matter. Watch out camera world, a fiend has been unleashed!
Yeah, I have been having a lot of fun with my new toy . . er . . . tool, as well as in learning how to work on the Panoram. Not to worry, though, as I won't mess it up. Actually I started with a Panoram that was completely jammed and with a frozen film winder and now have it working fine. All I really need to do is replace the bellows (which was worn out) and the bubble levels, and maybe work on its focus.
As for finding a Panoram to buy, they are quite common on that auction site, many times with 3 or 4 being listed simultaneously. Right now there is only one (a model 4B) listed on there. It seems that the model 4's have been selling for somewhere around $200 - $300, though the current listing has a $650 BIN. That is way overpriced, but then I don't trust anyone who advertises something as RARE, ANTIQUE, or COLLECTABLE, as those words are intended to snare the naive buyers . . . folks knowledgeable about stuff that is rare, antique, and collectable don't need to have those attributes pointed out to them!!
Those 3 words are generally much overused and abused, and much more likely to be thrown around in a scam deal rather than a legitimate transaction.
The Cirkut cameras generally do bring very high prices . . . about what a truck-load of Kodak Panorams would sell for . . . so don't expect to get that one for a Panoram-level price. The Cirkut is a much more mechanically complex professional type camera than the Panoram, and are still widely used as working cameras by both amateurs and professionals. Ones with deep pockets!
Yeah, I can identify with that. I never measured the depth of my pockets, as they were bottomless . . . anything of value (like money!) that went into the pocket fell into a black hole, never to be seen again. Of course I have always tended to help matters along with my recurring G.A.S. attacks.
My dear mother (still kicking and mean as ever) always said that money burned a hole in my pocket. Mea culpa!
Well besides plastic and frosted tape. You can use wax paper for ground glass or also a can of clear mat FIXER for charcoal sprayed on glass or plastic also works. MSC is a machine tool supply, lots of end mills and slot cutters etc., but they do carry some different things than McMaster Carr. I use those two and Mirco Fasteners, Link: http://www.microfasteners.com/, Micro-Tools, link: http://www.micro-tools.com/, and for hand tools, for wood working: Lee Valley Tools Link: http://www.leevalley.com/home.aspx
Yep, I tried out both of the micros . . . bought tiny #0 x 1/4" screws for the Panoram front plate and #2 x 56 pan head bolts for my Packard shutters from Micro Fasteners, and shutter cloth from Micro-Tools. I still haven't checked out MSC yet, but since I recently scarfed up an 18" tall mini milling machine, I want to check them out to see what sort of end mills, fly cutters, etc. I can get from them.
Anyhoo, I'm planning on trying my hand at replacing the bellows, using that velvet pigskin in front with a piece of the shutter cloth behind it to see how that works. That combination couldn't be any stiffer that the original felt/leather combo which was actually thicker and less flexible than the velvet pigskin.
I removed the front plate and bellows last night. The leather was incredibly thin and it did not seem to have an inner layer. Mine was torn in many places. I will have to reassemble the pieces to make a pattern.
Another possible source for an inner layer is to use a piece of the packaging from sheet film. It is the light proof black plastic envelope that is inside the double box. It is shiny but it won't have an effect due to the inner horn restricting the incoming light to a narrow strip of the film.
Whatever is used will have to be very thin and flexible so as not to restrict the movement of the lens.
I haven't thought about those black bags that hold sheet film, but they certainly would be good source for light proofing material, if the pastic isn't too stiff. I have a couple of those bags around here somewhere . . . and also some of the Porter Camera opaque bags . . . so I might try a piece of that stuff and see how it works. Thanks for the tip.