Finally someone spike the truth
I guess what you are really asking is to be her "Official Honeymoon" photographer...
Siriusly though, the people who practically begged me to do the creative work at their daughter's wedding next year own both original prints of mine and St. Ansel's and love what I do. I am not sure how many of these types of commissions I would want to do per year, maybe two?
"You can't expect to shoot any properly paid gigs nowadays....unless your marketing and business practices are good."
There really are plenty of people that can do really nice photographs. I would think that a super majority of the 61,052 APUG members that exist at the time of this post could easily reach the quality threshold required.
There are far fewer people who are willing to do the work and take the risks needed to make a good business of it.
Examples of some successful film shooters in the portrait and wedding market.
I'm not suggesting that film can fit every market but these guys are proof that it can work just fine in their market.
No, this isn't about your ability. It is about the business of photography. Just because you are capable of shooting film, it does not mean you can make a successful business out of your photography. You must have a market for you works. And clients who are willing to pay for your services at your asking price. And whether or not you can fulfill your client's expectations with the necessary turn around time. I am pretty sure it is not a smart idea to promote yourself as a film wedding photographer in order to define your niche market and your style.... you have to ask yourself if the couples would care if the photos are shot with film or digital?? All they want is good quality photos. Not all couples are art majors. Not all couples know anything about photography.
You do cycling spec work and talk among other amateur photographers who engage in the new practically-free-till-I-make-it-big wedding market and then reply with the statement above to full time professionals who are giving you *direct* examples of how it does work?
I'm sorry but you are just not getting it in my opinion. The market for the 1K shooter is not growing, it is contracting....fast. So that is not really a market to aspire to then, right? The market to aspire to break into is one that requires you as the shooter to effectively show through dynamic marketing presence high levels of skill and above all, talent. This shooter can easily market his film work to further set his product apart and it will work, because his client base IS educated, well cultured and wants more than "Just good quality photos" to begin with.
The people you refer to above are not even a market as they would happily pay you $100 or nothing at all for "Just good quality photos"....
That is what you are missing here, what you refer to is not even a market while the one the film shooter is going after most certainly is...
You make it to sound like film photography is making a come back and driving out all those wedding photographers shooting with their 20mp+ full frame camera. The reality is the opposite. This is the first time I heard about the 1k wedding market is shrinking. With today's economy, 1k for most couples for wedding photography can be too much. Don't believe me? Go look up Criag List for the $500 wedding photographers. Of course, if your typical clients are making more than 6 figure annual incomes, you would probably don't care too much about the normal folks. :) To generalize your unusual experiences to the general photography market is just wrong. Just out of touch with the reality.
That really isn't why Jose or Jonathan use film though.
Two of the reasons are 1-that they can use films intrinsic qualities to reliably get a beautiful salable product with the specific qualities they want and 2-the production workflow is simple and very high quality; Shoot, send to a really good lab, receive proofs and scans back from lab, show client proofs, send orders to lab, receive finished stuff, take cash, deliver.
To the best of my knowledge these guys, like Henri Cartier-Bresson, don't do the back end work themselves; so they get to spend their time on more profitable work like looking for more gigs or putting on seminars.
The Craigslist market you refer to is being flooded by more and more software developers and store clerks who want to shore up their income so this is more of a supply and demand meets public perception thing....it's not a market for a professional photographer as JBrunner tried to tell you...
And yes, although not on remotely a scale that harkens that pre-digital, pre-Internet days, film is making a fine art-esque and welcome come back into paid work. All my art directors and editors are enjoying it and are even paying the slight markup in some cases. We are all enjoying it, that helps to keep the final product fresh not to mention those involved.
No one is saying that film is making "the" come back in some form of anti-digital retaliation but more of the high profile niche it rightly deserves. When you are competing in a world of millions of people with cameras who call them selves photographers, having a niche is a good thing, being part of the general market is simply not....
Not where "Freetography" is concerned anyway...