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Heck, I need to come down there and hang out in my super camper, bring my 16" telescope, some cameras and film and just get out of town for a few days...maybe I can start my new portrait project about drunken girl's night out called "Benders Full of Women"...:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Klainmeister
Well, that explains the lack of punctuation. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PKM-25
Do it. I'll buy you a beer or two and if you'd like, we could maybe show you some of the new stuff we're working on at B+S.Quote:
Originally Posted by PKM-25
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Originally Posted by DREW WILEY
We all know that this is true.
But we also have be aware that there is artistic pursuit and then there is marketing.
And to successfully achieve one, we often have to aggressively be involved in the other.
My take on the term "fine art" is that it's merely a marketing term and in that vein, I use it.
In my corner of the field there are often great marketers (bullshitters) that are mediocre photographers, and excellent photographers who are mediocre marketers.
And very often the better marketers make the most money by far and in fact many very good photographers who don't market themselves well, go out of business.
True, Blansky. Up in your part of the world some software exec decides to retire, so buys a botique winery or orchard and decides to be an art collector. So now he's got a lot of money to waste on things he couldn't afford way back when, so he buys a bunch of idiotic neo-Pop Art, like the stuff that was in vougue in the 60's or 70's when he took a college art class, and rounds this out the mix with a few vintage photographs from long-dead famous guys. ... which all informs me he doesn't have a clue what he's looking at, and is letting outside interests dictate his taste, rather than his own eyes. Conspicuous consumption, keeping up with the Jonses'. And now you've got a whole generation who can even attend some art school full time and seemingly have never even witnessed
what a good print looks like. All they know visually is how things look on an idiotic computer monitor.
I suppose fine art photography is so inextricably linked with fashion, marketing, conceptualism and fame, that it is sometimes difficult for people to see the wood from the trees.
I have posted before that my gallery owner friend says that putting the word fine in front of art allows her to charge an extra 40%Quote:
Originally Posted by blansky
Steve.
Man, if I ever feel the need to make sour wine, I will know exactly where to come for the grapes...
Some serious "Baditude" going on here....
I agree, however, I know of at least one "cell phone photographer" who was given a show at a major gallery. The "pigs" may be winning
DanG
Exactly, nor do most people care about how hard you worked to get a photograph, how far you hiked or how much equipment you carried or how frozen your butt was at the end of the day.
Just saying.
DanG