# Infinite shots

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• 11-08-2012, 04:53 PM
Dali
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Originally Posted by cliveh
Can you explain why the surface of a sphere has no limit?

Because you can walk at the surface of a sphere (assuming it is big enough for the experiment, of course!) in any direction without finding something to stop you. Said differently, there is no edge. Different from another surface like a field.

So, the surface has no limit even if it is finite (you can calculate it).

;)
• 11-08-2012, 06:50 PM
Diapositivo
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Originally Posted by Dali
Because you can walk at the surface of a sphere (assuming it is big enough for the experiment, of course!) in any direction without finding something to stop you. Said differently, there is no edge. Different from another surface like a field.

So, the surface has no limit even if it is finite (you can calculate it).

;)

It is finite and you are infinitely going in circles over it. Saying it is infinite is playing with the meaning of words. By this token one might say that a rollercoaster is infinite because one can "advance" in one direction in it without ever reaching its end. But it isn't. That's regardless of how big the rollercoaster or the sphere is. The bigger it is the less I have the perception I am going in circles, yes.

But perception is not "truth". The Earth is big enough that people can walk it for a life without ever realizing advancing in circles, but nobody says it is infinite. That if we agree that infinite = without limits.
• 11-08-2012, 06:55 PM
MattKing
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Originally Posted by litody
and another thing. All those dictionaries keep saying space. What is space? Answer that and you'll be doing well.

"Space - the final frontier";)
• 11-08-2012, 07:17 PM
Stephanie Brim
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Originally Posted by MattKing
"Space - the final frontier";)

I hear that in Patrick Stewart's voice. Always. Doesn't matter where I am.
• 11-08-2012, 10:18 PM
MattKing
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Originally Posted by Stephanie Brim
I hear that in Patrick Stewart's voice. Always. Doesn't matter where I am.

Clearly, Stephanie you are young.

I hear it in the voice of James T. Kirk (William Shatner).

It needs that special Canadian tone;).
• 11-09-2012, 08:15 AM
Dali
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Originally Posted by Diapositivo
But perception is not "truth". The Earth is big enough that people can walk it for a life without ever realizing advancing in circles, but nobody says it is infinite. That if we agree that infinite = without limits.

Sorry but I won't argue anymore with you as you mix 2 notions to defend your stand, even if these notions are clearly defined in geometry.
• 11-09-2012, 09:07 AM
Vaughn
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Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson
How often has human theory been wrong?

If the universe is not infinite, what is beyond the 'end'? Surely there must be something there.

I suppose the same stuff (or non-stuff) that surrounded the point right before the Big Bang. And if anyone comprehends the whole universe as a point, they must truly be crazy.
• 11-09-2012, 10:05 AM
lxdude
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Originally Posted by Vaughn
And if anyone comprehends the whole universe as a point, they must truly be crazy.

So I guess that means the whole universe is pointless.
Except to someone crazy.
;)
• 11-09-2012, 11:13 AM
Diapositivo
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Originally Posted by Dali
Sorry but I won't argue anymore with you as you mix 2 notions to defend your stand, even if these notions are clearly defined in geometry.

No need to argue. The universe will go on the same regardless of how we define it.
• 11-09-2012, 11:48 AM
batwister
As funny as monkeys are, I'd say there's too much 'wit' in that picture. But if you say infinite time, then obviously they'd have time to evolve, given the right environment. In which case they'd probably get bored with photography anyway and be more interested in war and nuclear weapons.

The Bresson picture definitely follows the 'chance favours the prepared mind' rule, but the prepared mind has a uniquely human personality.
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