agree with your comments regarding FotoWillem's site. Well worth a browse!
I don't think it matters what format you shoot in, screen representation rarely do them justice. Sometimes, examining the small details of a print is part of the appreciation of that print. There are some exceptions I guess, but never having seen those images as prints, how can we tell? I can only go by my own experience and generally, my prints are far superior to my web versions (and I don't shoot LF). I've seen discussions debating the differences between transmittance and reflective lighting and I'd agree that has a lot to do with it.
In the attached pic, on the actual 8"x10" you can count the barbs on the barbwire fences, but that just doesn't get translated in a pic thats 600odd pixels wide. For some pics that sort of thing doesn't matter.
Picking up on another of your points, I no longer worry too much about the outright quality of the image shown, giving the maker the benefit of the doubt to the digitising process and try to concentrate on the image, however if there's distinct observations I can make and think they will benefit from I will add those. Half the time it a screen setup thing anyway!
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jdef @ Oct 3 2002, 11:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Hello Nige. I didn't mean to infer that LF photographers' images are the only ones that suffer in the translation to electronic media. The reason I singled out LF photographers relates to the seeming disparity in their posting work compared to other photographers. Since recently committing my efforts to LF, I am eager to see the work of other LF photog's that I know through reading their posts in various forums etc., but have been disappointed time and again by how few post their work. I've learned a lot from reading the posted comments, but feel that without images to form a context I am often at a loss to interpret them. Thank you for posting your image with your comment, it is a perfect example of the best possible kind of response.-jdf</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Another thing you might consider is the utter ignorance some of us LF photographers have making scans for posting on the net. I tried it a few times and it was a very unpleasant experience. Why spend so much time, effort and money to make a beautiful print just to have it look like crap on a monitor? Or spend time an money working on it with PS to approximate how your print looks? to me they are worthless pursuits, but some people do make some very nice scans of their prints. If you wish to see some LF format work, go to Tuan's site ( the link is on our home page) and scroll down to the bottom of the page, you will find a "photographers links" section.....get on this and look the work of Clyde Butcher....wonderful Florida swamp images, etc.....but of course the scans never compare to his real images.....any ways, there is a whole bunch of sites on Tuan's page...
Just dont spend so much time there you forget about us... http://apug.org/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
BTW I moved this post to the ethics and philosophy sections because we would like to have the feedback and discussion sections for opinions and suggestions related to the APUG site.
This is a very interested thread but I felt it dealt more with the "why" we post (or not) pictures in the net.
jdef, you want to see work from people on this forum? then why dont you start a print exchange? Is very simple, you decide how much work you want to put into this, let say once every 3 months. You give your address to those who want to participate and they will send you prints. You in turn are in charge to distrinbute the prints to the various members who want to participate. Of course everybody who agrees to participate will have to include a couple of bucks for postage with the print. But I guess you get my drift.
Or you can make a list and have a database and with all those who want to participate address, and every so often you e mail each other and exchange prints. Etc, etc. I has been done many times in other forums.
Another avenue if you want to meet with people is to create "free" workshops. Pick a place and decide to go there. Anounce it here and see how many people show. Per Volquarts has done this in the photo.net LF forum and last I heard he had 40 people on his last "free" workshop. Of course, Per is a wonderful photographer, so there is an incentive there. But maybe you have someone in your area who would be interested to meet other LF photographers.
jdef, just e mail Sean or PM him and ask him if he could set up a print exchange forum. I am sure he will agree to do it. Once the forum is set up ask for members to exchange prints. You will have to organize a little bit, but it might be worth the effort. Set up a data base in excel, or something like that and get the mailing addreses of all the people who want to participate. set them up in order and just figure out a way so that the people participating do not mail prints to the same person all the time.
Like I said since you will be starting this so you will have to coordinate who the members mail their prints to.
You need no computer skills other than just a little knowledge of excel or some kind of spread sheet program to help you keep track of the members participating.
I have participated in a couple print exchanges... I even set up a webpage for it (http://unite.com.au/~u3819a/printswap/printswap.html). I will swap other images not on that page if I know I can print them (those ones I do know I can print!) http://apug.org/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif Also, the 'rules' I have on that page are all negotiable! My most recent exchange hasn't been completed, even though I sent my prints a long time ago..... oh well!
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jdef @ Oct 8 2002, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>If I didn't screw this up, this should be a link to a gallery of my work-jdf
You did not screwed it up and the work is very nice, congratulations!
We're looking into creating a member's gallery. As part of that feature, we'll include details of a 'print exchange'. How does this idea sound?
jdef, you'd be the point of contact for the print exchange. http://apug.org/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jdef @ Oct 8 2002, 06:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>.... I hope that your decision not to offer portraits isn't reciprocal, as I have little else to offer. I'm beginning to get a sense of what a minority we portraitists are....
No, I'm, game to swap anything, and I have my eye on a couple of your images from the linked folder! My comment "Since I doubt you would want a picture of my son, regardless how cute he is, I've just included scenics!" was an attempt at humour http://apug.org/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif and probably my expectation that no-one would want a picture of him (or them as it is now!) I will have to change that page because I think I'd even remove the reference to inkjets too. I think I can print (too some level of satisfaction) most things on my 'gallery' page ( http://unite.com.au/~u3819a/gallery/gallery.html ) as well. I put that disclaimer in because some pics are scanned before they get printed, and in my experience the two methods may not produce the same result and I don't want to present a false expectation.
Hey, Sally Mann did pretty good with the portraits of her children! so dont think is impossible..... http://apug.org/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif