-- Ole Tjugen, Luddite Elitist
There's one huge problem with this sale, we just don't have a clue how many of those cameras are good, functional, or just junk. Who ever put this collection together didn't take good care of it, or maybe that should be the current owner.
As a whole they will only make a small fraction of their true value, and anyone buying the package and cleaning, cataloguing and re-selling on ebay could make a killing.
The owner writes (translated from German):
Originally Posted by Ian Grant
The objects are for the most part in good condition, technically however, they have been kept for so long, so as to be sure that one or another shutter has "hardened" / is unusable.
I won't make a list, nor answer specific detailed questions regarding certain pieces. As it is displayed, it is sold (WYSIWYG )
The original well conserved and well kept after Biedermeijer cupboard is sold separately for 2000 euro's. Shipping cost depending on packaging, because of weight and several boxes
If it is even sold and the price target is met! Otherwise it stays, and anyone interested can report himself next year a second time.
"The nineteenth century began by believing that what was reasonable was true, and it wound up by believing that what it saw a photograph of, was true.
" - William M. Ivins Jr.
"I don't know, maybe we should disinvent color, and we could just shoot Black & White.
" - David Burnett in 1978
"Analog is chemistry + physics, digital is physics + math, which ones did you like most?
So it's sold take it or leave it, as long as you pay more than my reserve
The comments are fair, particularly about the shutters etc, but the seller isn't helping himself. I guess he's decided a figure and wants minimal effort in disposing of the equipment.
In the past I've bough well from sellers like this. Around 2000 I answered a Newsgroup add for darkroom equipment, being sold as one lot, numerous people wanted this or that, but the seller the deeased owners son didn't want the hassle of selling off equipment he knew nothing about. I bought the lot and the fraction I sold paid for everything.
This sale seems like that. The seller doesn't have the knowledge to sell anything off separately. So buy it now or wait until I've had it catalogued and valued properly.
maybe he just wants to be fair and honest regarding the cameras, and shutters?
i know of sellers i have bought from who listed things
in conditions other than actual . ...
Last edited by jnanian; 09-20-2008 at 08:31 PM. Click to view previous post history.
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Originally Posted by gandolfi
I'm sure the seller would trade that lot, for a bottle of wine, with those two model friends you have.
Some insight into the seller’s frame of mind may be gained from this, his last sale (of a Leitz Aristophot photomicrography camera, very grubby, rusty in parts, electrical power supply probably lethal, quite a few lenses which would be worth having if not full of mold):
“Keine Ahnung was das alles ist und was genau dabei ist, wie komplett, wie es funktioniert etc. Es ist jedenfalls äusserst schwer und zum TRANSPORT per POST denkbar ungeeignet. Deshalb, Abholung bevorzugt. Ansonsten mindestens 2 Kisten, Kosten so nicht zu ermitteln. Preis willkürlich eingesetzt, nur halt nicht zu verschenken (höchstens an ein MUSEUM - aber die in Frage kommenden haben sich nicht gerührt)..”
“No idea what it is, what is present, how complete, how it works etc. Alll I can say is it is very heavy and highly unsuitable for shipping. Pick-up is therefore preferred. Otherwise at least 2 crates will be needed, costs impossible to determine. I have set a price at random, I’m not going to give it away, except perhaps to a museum, but possible candidates have not responded ...”
A seller for people who like to take a chance!
Final price for this lot - US$3,500! From what could be seen in the pictures, the Linhof 9x12 or 4x5 plus two vintage Contaxes and a Leica would have taken care of this amount, the rest would have been free to anyone with the time to drive a van to Karlsruhe!
PS: I should have noted that the final bid did not reach the reserve price - my guess is that this is $5,000 - who knows? The cameras are still up for grabs!
Last edited by nemo999; 09-23-2008 at 06:54 PM. Click to view previous post history.