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    Older cameras are better???

    Crisper pictures?

    A couple months ago I acquired a 1955 Argus 21 Markfinder. This was my first "Old" (pre 1960) 35mm camera I had bought. So being curious about the quality of it, I wanted to run it through my own little test against one of my other newer cameras. The main objective I had thought of was if a uncoated lens would affect the picture in contrast to a coated one.

    I loaded a cheap roll of CVS brand color 35 in the Argus and a roll into my Nikon FM.

    So, I just got both rolls developed at the same place at the same time, and the pictures from the Argus are clearly more vivid and crisper apposed to the pictures from my Nikon. I've shot my Nikon without a 1A filter on it and it still doesn't produce such crisp pictures.
    Why is this?

    I'm thinking it has to do with the amount of layers of glass from the object to the film.
    But, then again, I could be way off in my speculation!

    Any help here?
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    Might be time to get your Nikon checked out.

    Could be the lab too.
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    Hello ; are you sure the two rolls (the same rolls ?) were developped in the same bath ?
    A different quality in process may produce a great difference in pictures quality .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcorll View Post
    "Old" (pre 1960)
    I was born in 1951....I'm offended.

    My guess is the exposures didn't match up exactly. Probably one more stop over exposed on the Nikon. Or as mentioned earlier, a different development bath.

    Dave
    Last edited by Dave_ON; 01-03-2010 at 04:44 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: additional info

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    Andy- No, I'm not sure that they were both used in the same bath. They should be of similar quality though, Right? I got them quickly developed at CVS because I didn't feel like waiting until I got back to school to develop them. (I am still saving up for the equipment to make my own)

    Dave- My parents don't like me using that "O" word around the house either.
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    I was born in 1970 and . . . it's not the years, it's the mileage.

    I have noticed a tendency in my own photography that when I am out with a camera I am 'playing' with and do not normally use that I might slack off on my exposure quality a smidge, perhaps. Personally, historically, I would think that the off camera would yeild lesser results than my daily beater. Recently, that is not the case. And I would think others exhibit the same mentality to a certain degree.

    So, in long, I second ricksplace's thoughts. Check out the Nikon.

    Oh, and OT a bit, where in western PA? I grew up in East liverpool, OH. Just curious.
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    I tried to make sure the exposure and aperture was consistent.

    I guess I have to give in and get my Nikon to the doctors for a checkup!

    I live near Pittsburgh. I know exactly where East Liverpool is! My grandparents live in New Springfield!
    small world eh?
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    What lens did you have on the Nikon, did you shoot both cameras at the same f/stop?

    Some old cameras can produce better results than some new cameras, but it's not the result I'd expect from the two you've compared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcorll View Post
    I live near Pittsburgh. I know exactly where East Liverpool is!
    Yup, West on 30 and fall off the end of the Earth. Hit ELO on the way down.

    Small world indeed.
    Thank you.
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    Well...since we're checking, I'd have the shutter speed checked on both cameras. If one is 10-20% over and one 10-20% under....Voila!

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