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    [QUOTE=Perry Way;991030]Cutting down a larger size is wasteful. I'm not prone to do that at all.

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    Hmmmm. Splitting 5x7 into two useable sheets; plus shards for checking developer; 2x time to clear for hypo tests. I do not see it as that wasteful.
    John, Mount Vernon, Virginia USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    Why not use a roll film back?
    Do you mean something like this? Auction Item (on that evil auction site)

    Thank you very much, I just bought THAT!
    I love the wilderness and I love my trail cameras, all Fuji's! :) GA645, GW690 III, and the X100 which I think is the best trail camera ever invented (to date).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fotoguy20d View Post
    Does your Graphic have a Graflok back or a spring back? You can, with a little searching and patience, find a roll film holder for the 3x4 graflok (make sure it's a graphic not a graflex - the latter is for the RB cameras). 2x3 holders and film for the B&J shouldn't be hard to find at all (as long as you don't mind the Efke film).

    Dan
    It has a Graphic back, I believe is how that is called. I did some research today looking for accessories and whatnot. Happened upon some good reading material but even after reading that and now coming back to your post, I am kind of puzzled if I have a spring back or Graphic back, in my understanding the Graphic back is the one with the flip up cover over the ground glass and it is a spring back but it does not have a traditional spring lever to expand the back wide open.

    Anyway, I just picked up a nifty Adapt-a-Roll for the 3.25 x 4.25 standard (Graphic) back, in 6x9 format which I love. This one began life as a 620 roll but has been modified to take 120 rolls. Also, with careful loading, you can get 9 shots out of a roll with this adapter whereas the normal 6x9 format only yields 8 shots even though there is a decent amount of room in there for another frame if you start like a quarter inch before the start lead you have excess room.

    As for the B&J, I'm going to get holders for it but this is low priority for me because the camera needs a major cleaning in the lens, the dust is just enormous in certain areas, the rangefinder lost a piece of linkage from the end of the arm that is supposed to meet up with the front standard, and of course I'm too busy (with life) to clean and repair right now even though it's 6x9 which is what I love the most on 120 film. Course.. I could go for a 6x17 back for my Cambo....
    I love the wilderness and I love my trail cameras, all Fuji's! :) GA645, GW690 III, and the X100 which I think is the best trail camera ever invented (to date).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anscojohn View Post
    Well, you can trim down 4x5 or split 5x7. I wonder, does a Fujiroid film back fit them?
    I think so! (the fuji..) I saw a 3.25 x 4.25 Crown Graphic last week at the local shop. I considered it for a moment.. but then saw it was not a Speed Graphic and decided no way Jose. Saw out the corner of my eye a stack of Fuji instant film in 3.25 x 4.25. My memory can't dig up whether I saw a back for it or not, but why would the film be packaged with the camera if it didn't have a back?
    I love the wilderness and I love my trail cameras, all Fuji's! :) GA645, GW690 III, and the X100 which I think is the best trail camera ever invented (to date).

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven_e007 View Post
    3.25 X 4.24, quarter plate, is one of the sizes in Ilford's ULF run

    So...get your order in for a few boxes of FP4+ or HP5+ and stack them in the fridge and you are set up until next year's ULF run...
    Way cool! I love those both. Especially FP4+. Do you know when the next ULF run takes place?
    I love the wilderness and I love my trail cameras, all Fuji's! :) GA645, GW690 III, and the X100 which I think is the best trail camera ever invented (to date).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralnphot View Post
    I have a pair of Graflex film pack adapters that will fit your camera. I was told they were for 4x5, so I bought them. Opened the package when they arrived, and waddaya know, 3-1/4x4-1/4 pack adapters. You can have them for postage($5 small flatrate).
    I'll take it! Private message on the way!
    I love the wilderness and I love my trail cameras, all Fuji's! :) GA645, GW690 III, and the X100 which I think is the best trail camera ever invented (to date).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Way View Post
    Do you mean something like this? Auction Item (on that evil auction site)

    Thank you very much, I just bought THAT!
    I've got a couple of the Adapt-a-roll holders, and if they're clean and working they're fine. The only "weirdness" about them is that they reroll the film backwards from expected, so when you go to unroll it to put in the tank it's kind of awkward the first few times. The film is on the take up spool emulsion out when you unwind the backing paper.

    If you practice with the thing you can also get 9 images instead of 8 on the roll.

    Another "trick" I've tried that works, but may not be great for you depending on how much you're willing to monkey with it, is mark the dark slid so that the film gate is 6x7 or 645 with the slide partially reinserted to the mark. You can count the clicks on the dial to advance the film (unless yours is way different than mine). 4 clicks is 6x9 and marked on the dial. 3 clicks is 6x7.25, and 2 clicks is 645.

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    Perry,
    Welcome to the accidental 3x4 Graphic club! I also have a 3-1/4x4-1/4 Speed Graphic. Actually I have both an Anniversary Speed Graphic and a Pacemaker Speed Graphic as well as a pair of Graflex RB Super D SLRs. I went to one of the office supply stores and bought one of those guillotine type paper cutters. I used a piece of 1x4 lumber and some 3/8 inch dowel and a couple of hours later I had an adjustable stop film cutter that I could use to cut sheet film down to 3-1/4x4-1/4 or 2-1/4 x 3-1/4. I can get 5 pieces of 3-1/4x4-1/4 out of one sheet of 8x10 with very little waste. Now I can use my Anniversary Speed Graphic with T-Max 100, T-Max 400 or Portra 160 NC and my sheet film holders.

    As regards to the Graflex film pack holders; These holders take the now obsolete 518 Pack film. These film packs were actually roll film cut to sheet film sizes and they are no longer available. The film pack adapers make a nice Graflex collectable.

    Enjoy a Great American made camera!

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    Dave

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    dude! 77 bucks ona 120 holder seriously?
    i have two graflex 31/2x 4 6x9 roll film holders that do 120 and 220 i got them accidentally too becuase i was wnating 4x5 holders for less than 60 bucks if you want i could post them to you, only thing is am in europe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelbsc View Post
    I've got a couple of the Adapt-a-roll holders, and if they're clean and working they're fine. The only "weirdness" about them is that they reroll the film backwards from expected, so when you go to unroll it to put in the tank it's kind of awkward the first few times. The film is on the take up spool emulsion out when you unwind the backing paper.

    I just received my Adapt-a-roll holder. I sacrificed a roll of Adox CHS Art 50 to practice loading with and the dang roll just come unwound before I even got the dang thing on the spool holder, if you can imagine Adox is very very curly but man, it is impossible to load in this holder. So, I do not have instructions for this, I do not know where I'm supposed to line up the film to the start line, and where to make the setting on film counter so I know where frame 1 begins. Is it easy enough to describe? Could you tell me where the film is supposed to line up?
    I love the wilderness and I love my trail cameras, all Fuji's! :) GA645, GW690 III, and the X100 which I think is the best trail camera ever invented (to date).

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