New Epson Printer

[donbga]

Could this be a replacement for the Epson 2200?

http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1108098105.html

Nice specs and a lower price thant the 2200.

Don Bryant

[glbeas]

We have the R800, the 8 1/2 inch version. Does a quite nice job, very even texture to the print. Overall seems to have a different color balance than the 2200s in general. One thing I like about this model is the covers close up completely to keep out dust when not being used. It looks like the R1800 is made the same way.

[Christian Olivet]

Could this be a replacement for the Epson 2200?

http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1108098105.html

Nice specs and a lower price thant the 2200.

Don Bryant

Hey this is the printer I was waiting to try the digi negs for palladium printing. I am glad I waited a little bit instead of going for the 2200. I have no doubts in my mind this printer is the one at the moment.

[smieglitz]

... this printer is the one at the moment.

And those moments are getting briefer all the time with this stuff.

Joe

[donbga]

Overall seems to have a different color balance than the 2200s in general.

I'm not sure I understand that statement. Could it be that you mean the ink sets are different?

Don Bryant

[glbeas]

I'm not sure I understand that statement. Could it be that you mean the ink sets are different?

Don Bryant

I'm not sure of the difference. It may be the properties of the driver. Basis is when trying for neutral color on the 2200 we always had to fight a slight magenta bias to the skin tones. My brothers 2200 acted exactly the same. On our R800 we experienced a slight greenish bias. I'd bet most of that type printer will run the same. This annoying tint happened in spite of getting a good neutral grey in the print, so I'm not sure where it comes from. I tried one of those programs to tailor the output curves but the results were awful. The folks that made it said it was because they didn't program it for the Ultrachrome inks.
Our Epson 870 dye printer never gave us this problem.

[donbga]

I'm not sure of the difference. It may be the properties of the driver. Basis is when trying for neutral color on the 2200 we always had to fight a slight magenta bias to the skin tones. My brothers 2200 acted exactly the same. On our R800 we experienced a slight greenish bias. I'd bet most of that type printer will run the same. This annoying tint happened in spite of getting a good neutral grey in the print, so I'm not sure where it comes from. I tried one of those programs to tailor the output curves but the results were awful. The folks that made it said it was because they didn't program it for the Ultrachrome inks.
Our Epson 870 dye printer never gave us this problem.

You want have these kinds of problems if you work with a profiled system.

Don

[glbeas]

You wont have these kinds of problems if you work with a profiled system.

Don

Agreed, I just need to get the profiling software to do it's job. Anyway at this point I don't use it enough to warrant putting a lot of time into it. Too many other irons to tend to. Later I'll contact the Colorvision folks and see if the've figured out what they are doing and seek an upgrade.

[WarEaglemtn]

Epson has to replace the 2200 as metamerism is still a problem with the inks, moreso with B&W printing than with color.

[donbga]

Epson has to replace the 2200 as metamerism is still a problem with the inks, moreso with B&W printing than with color.

I've never heard of anyone reporting metamerism when printing color images.

Roy Harrington's Quad Tone RIP is an excellent product for printing metamerism free B&W prints.

http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html

Don Bryant