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    A proper use for inkjet paper

    Reading the latest edition of Black & White Photography, which is infected with an article on digital printing paper, and as one who has to share this computer with a digital photographer; and is therefore surrounded by all the paraphernalia that it requires. It seems to me that a much better use could be found for the paper that will otherwise be consumed in a futile attempt to create artwork. Is it, I wonder, a suitable medium for coating with emulsion, or are there agents in the stuff that may attack my version of art? I know that the obvious thing for me to do is to buy a bottle of liquid emulsion and try it, but before I do, has anyone else any experience of using this medium, and if so which make, and with what results?
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    I don't know. I tried a satista print on some Epson watercolor paper, used the side you should print on and it worked, except I did a piss poor job coating it. This bears more trials and research to see just how good it really is.
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    I was thinking of using the Liquid emulsion on the pre-stamped, post office post card. I've actuall (sorry, digital here), used it on my old Epson 825 Photo printer. Printed a photo right onto the postcard and then I thought...hmm, I wonder if I can coat this paper with Alt Process, and then contact print it.

    Anybody? Its just paper with a stamp already on imprinted on it. Don't know much about alt process (would like to try cyano and van dyke) and I think I remember seeing that you just use H20 to process it.

    I will sacrifice a sheet in paper, see what happens to the stamp and paper if anyone is interested in doing doing something similar with Alt Process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric
    I was thinking of using the Liquid emulsion on the pre-stamped, post office post card. I've actuall (sorry, digital here), used it on my old Epson 825 Photo printer. Printed a photo right onto the postcard and then I thought...hmm, I wonder if I can coat this paper with Alt Process, and then contact print it.

    Anybody? Its just paper with a stamp already on imprinted on it. Don't know much about alt process (would like to try cyano and van dyke) and I think I remember seeing that you just use H20 to process it.

    I will sacrifice a sheet in paper, see what happens to the stamp and paper if anyone is interested in doing doing something similar with Alt Process.
    Why not try to count how many angels can stand on the head of a pin?

    If you want to try alt. processes purchase decent paper to work with. I would think that you would value your time enough to use worthwhile materials. There are plenty of inexpensive papers that can be used for VDB for example and most of the expensive papers used for alt processes are actually cheaper than most decent inkjet media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbga
    There are plenty of inexpensive papers that can be used for VDB for example and most of the expensive papers used for alt processes are actually cheaper than most decent inkjet media.
    Cool! My summer project!

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    Paul roark has a process for printing with inkjet black and white.
    He found a glossy inkjet paper made in switzerland, that is realy cheap.
    It does a beautiful job . They sell it at costco .its the kirkland brand.
    It would be great if someone could find a use for it .
    It costs 18.99 for 125 sheets ,It might even be acid free

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Miller
    Reading the latest edition of Black & White Photography, which is infected with an article on digital printing paper, and as one who has to share this computer with a digital photographer; and is therefore surrounded by all the paraphernalia that it requires. It seems to me that a much better use could be found for the paper that will otherwise be consumed in a futile attempt to create artwork. Is it, I wonder, a suitable medium for coating with emulsion, or are there agents in the stuff that may attack my version of art? I know that the obvious thing for me to do is to buy a bottle of liquid emulsion and try it, but before I do, has anyone else any experience of using this medium, and if so which make, and with what results?
    Dan Burkholder has printed platinum over inkjet prints and I am fairly certain that my friend Sam Wang has done do as well. I think what Dan did was in color, using the Epson 2200 and its pigmented ink set.

    Based on that I would assume that one could coat many of the inkjet printing papers with at least some of the hand-coating processes, though off-hand I would think it would be much easier to get an even coating on the matte papers thabn smooth surface papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanking
    Dan Burkholder has printed platinum over inkjet prints and I am fairly certain that my friend Sam Wang has done do as well. I think what Dan did was in color, using the Epson 2200 and its pigmented ink set.

    Based on that I would assume that one could coat many of the inkjet printing papers with at least some of the hand-coating processes, though off-hand I would think it would be much easier to get an even coating on the matte papers thabn smooth surface papers.

    Sandy

    I took Dan's workshop last summer and did his "platinum over pigment" process. Yes, we did use the 2200, but we printed on Lanaquarelle #140 Hot Press paper. No special inkjet paper although I don't know if that would work. I'll ask him in a couple of weeks when I see him.

    You print on the 2200 in color with all the black removed from the image. You then create a dig. negative with all the dark tones. You coat the paper with your patinum sensitizer, dry, put the neg is registration and print normal platinum. Works, I have a print on my wall of it. Its a pretty interesting look.

    Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic823
    I took Dan's workshop last summer and did his "platinum over pigment" process. Yes, we did use the 2200, but we printed on Lanaquarelle #140 Hot Press paper. No special inkjet paper although I don't know if that would work. I'll ask him in a couple of weeks when I see him.

    You print on the 2200 in color with all the black removed from the image. You then create a dig. negative with all the dark tones. You coat the paper with your patinum sensitizer, dry, put the neg is registration and print normal platinum. Works, I have a print on my wall of it. Its a pretty interesting look.

    Steve
    Isn’t that a little like putting caviar on a McDonalds burger?
    I jest, sounds like an interesting process.
    Regards Dave.

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    Since this has turned into a post about digital printers and hybrid processes, could a moderator move it to the grey area sub-forum?
    "Fundamentally I think we need to rediscover a non-ironic world"
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