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    I thought after the subway bombing that the authorities obtained much valuable evidence from all the cell phone and point-n-shoot cameras people had. This obviously is not enough to counteract the stupidity we see more and more in our two countries.

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    This has been a recurring theme in my AP column. Kast week's (issue of Feb 24) suggested the photographic equivalent of the 'Mass Trespass' movement by ramblers that established the 'Right to Roam' now enshrined in English law, and a while back I suggested using national lottery money to fund a weekly photo competition for street photography with monthly and annual prizes. I suggested the latter precisely because photographers are an infinitely more valuable resource than CCTV cameras: as an earlier post said, the investigating authorities apparently DID get useful information from members of the public who were carrying cameras and camera 'phones.

    If anyone's interested, a collection of the first couple of years' columns is available from www.magepublishing.co.uk. I'm not totally happy with it -- there are several typos (because I never saw proofs) and the repro quality of picture insert is awful -- but if you like to think about why and how we take pictures, or suffer from low blood pressure, you may find it of interest at only £11.99.

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    I've just signed!
    Ultimately,I want to make a legitimate living as a photographer(either freelance or directly employed).
    For that,a qualification will be at the very least extremely useful(possibly even essential).
    For that,I'll need more practice.
    There are only so many good photos I can take in my garden-assuming THAT doesn't qualify as a public place!
    A common mistake people made when designing something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

    Computers are incredibly stupid,but they are capable of being incredibly stupid many millions of times a second.

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    Only put off until tomorrow that which you are prepared to die having not done-Pablo Picasso

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    Thinking about it a bit more,if this ridiculous piece of proposed legislation goes through,what's to stop it affecting other artists such as painters?
    A common mistake people made when designing something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

    Computers are incredibly stupid,but they are capable of being incredibly stupid many millions of times a second.

    Both said by Doug Adams

    Only put off until tomorrow that which you are prepared to die having not done-Pablo Picasso

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    ... and what about people with photographic memory?


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    If this goes through, I predict a massive explosion of pinhole photography in the UK. Anything can be a camera--an Altoids box, beer can, briefcase, pumpkin, delivery truck. If you don't want to be recorded on film, just keep it moving.
    flickr--http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidagoldfarb/
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    I wonder if anyone has thought about forwarding copies of this proposed legislation to the camera,film and memory card manufacturers?
    They'll all be affected by it,and no government can afford to ignore a potential large loss of tax revenue.
    A common mistake people made when designing something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

    Computers are incredibly stupid,but they are capable of being incredibly stupid many millions of times a second.

    Both said by Doug Adams

    Only put off until tomorrow that which you are prepared to die having not done-Pablo Picasso

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleowl View Post
    Thinking about it a bit more,if this ridiculous piece of proposed legislation goes through,what's to stop it affecting other artists such as painters?
    There is no legislation, I feel quite annoyed as to how this petition has been worded/publicised and think it is more of a hindrance than a help.
    I'm opposed to ludicrous restrictions on taking photos in public places but signing up to something like this doesn't help if it's not based on facts, there is no legislation proposed, nobody is planning any. Exposing the absurd would be more productive and in my previous link referring to the London Eye the publicity itself has done them no favours.

    I've no war stories myself I'm afraid but Dave Gorman has an interesting one (unfortunately not a film shooter).

    The best practice (in my opinion) is to know your rights and use common courtesy.

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    First take away the photographs, then take away the photographers.

    Like in another country; First burn the books, then burn people.

    What is the root reason for the proposed ban?
    Everytime I find a film or paper that I like, they discontinue it. - Paul Strand - Aperture monograph on Strand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt View Post

    What is the root reason for the proposed ban?
    The answer would propel this thread into the soapbox faster than you could say Dubya.


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