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    Did I break anything?

    I just picked up a Toyocaflex for $45. It had a really sticky shutter below 1/25sec, but i was confident that it was just age. After I had cleaned all the nastyness out of the mirror-box, I decided to take some 3-in-1 oil to the shutter. I did not know anything about camera repair at this point, but I understand now that oil is not an ideal fix for sluggish gears.

    However, soon after putting oil all in and around the shutter assembly, all the speeds came loose again and are working with surprising accuracy.

    I figure, if it works, it works. However, am I doing any long-term damage by putting the oil in it? Should I go have it cleaned ASAP?
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    The problem with 3in1 is it's way too thick among other things. It will attract and then hold onto dirt and grit.
    I'm REAL surprised your shutter works. Who knows for how long tho.

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    Send it off for a CLA [Clean, Lubrication, Adjust] when you can afford to. I would not wait too long. KEH.com can do a CLA and they are geographically close to you.
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    Thanks for the quick responses. As soon as I've got the extra money I'll take it in to Peace Camera. I've gotten mostly positive reviews about them and they're a stone's throw from the house.
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    A couple of things....

    Oil of wrong type can evaporate and cause haze on lens surface.
    Too much oil can leak and go into places where it shouldn't.
    Gunked up oil is still in there.... loosened/dissolved by new oil and solvent, it will gunk up again,
    Typically, putting unknown oil of unknown quantity into a precision instrument is a risky thing.

    I think it's a good idea to get it cleaned up and lubed correctly. I don't think you caused any immediate problem though.
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    Plus its not just if its the right oil, it is also how much oil. If you over oil, it will migrate to other areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EKDobbs View Post
    I just picked up a Toyocaflex for $45. It had a really sticky shutter below 1/25sec, but i was confident that it was just age. After I had cleaned all the nastyness out of the mirror-box, I decided to take some 3-in-1 oil to the shutter. I did not know anything about camera repair at this point, but I understand now that oil is not an ideal fix for sluggish gears.

    However, soon after putting oil all in and around the shutter assembly, all the speeds came loose again and are working with surprising accuracy.

    I figure, if it works, it works. However, am I doing any long-term damage by putting the oil in it? Should I go have it cleaned ASAP?
    You haven't actually "broken" anything, but you have created a potential mess.
    Send the camera to someone who knows what they are doing, and don't put any more 3-in-1 oil on cameras. Ever. Anywhere.

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    Something tells me that you should have flooded the shutter with lighter fluid (i.e., without the lens elements attached), the opposite of oil. - David Lyga

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotch View Post
    Plus its not just if its the right oil, it is also how much oil. If you over oil, it will migrate to other areas.
    Agreed. Just one drop from a 3 in 1 can is more than the whole shutter needs - even if it was the correct type.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Lyga View Post
    Something tells me that you should have flooded the shutter with lighter fluid (i.e., without the lens elements attached), the opposite of oil. - David Lyga
    That's another good way to make a mess.



 

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