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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Bah. It's just a lens; it was originally assembled by normal human beings, so it stands to reason that one can repair it competently.
    The challenge is finding that one.

    BTW, I was having a terrible time with a doublet from an Angenieux lens. Then I remembered to pronounce it du-blay, and it immediately stopped being obstinate. You know how those Frenchies are!
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    The challenge is finding that one.

    BTW, I was having a terrible time with a doublet from an Angenieux lens. Then I remembered to pronounce it du-blay, and it immediately stopped being obstinate. You know how those Frenchies are!
    Yes. When I had a Peugeot 504 I found that if I drank good Armagnac and swore at it en Francais it was much easier to work on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Bah. It's just a lens; it was originally assembled by normal human beings, so it stands to reason that one can repair it competently.
    Now, if he'd been working on a truly special lens - like a Goerz Dagor - it really would take cojones (note sp.) And talent, and incredible skill, and superhuman and -natural powers, because these lenses are special. The person who designed them is special, the men who made them were special, and the photographers who use them are special, because they use them. And of course the photographs made with them are most special of all. Even the subjects which are photographed become special.

    Stuff and nonsense. Eric Beltrando, who knew the man well, tells me that the last owner of Boyer (CEDIS-Boyer, then) glued Beryl lens groups by hand. Literally by hand, he held them in his hand, didn't use a v-block.

    And remember,the Beryl is a Dagor clone. By Eric's calculations, a very good Dagor clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    Stuff and nonsense. Eric Beltrando, who knew the man well, tells me that the last owner of Boyer (CEDIS-Boyer, then) glued Beryl lens groups by hand. Literally by hand, he held them in his hand, didn't use a v-block.

    And remember,the Beryl is a Dagor clone. By Eric's calculations, a very good Dagor clone.
    See what I mean? Special. Q.E.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Yes. When I had a Peugeot 504 I found that if I drank good Armagnac and swore at it en Francais it was much easier to work on.
    504? My wife had one when we married. After she moved up to NJ it was looked after by our local Peugeot dealership, whose owner was a venturesome Hollander. Very competent shop. I showed them a Scimitar coupe shop manual and they agreed to work on mine when I didn't think I could do the necessary well enoughl. Used them for head gaskets (I supplied the parts), overdrive replacement (ditto, NOS unit mailed from the UK, very inexpensive) and clutch slave cylinder replacement.

    When the 504 got old herself wanted to replace it with a 505. We're both glad that I convinced her an Accord would do.

    More about Boyer. Their QC was quite stringent, as would be expected from a Leitz subcontractor (lens elements, not complete lenses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    504? My wife had one when we married. After she moved up to NJ it was looked after by our local Peugeot dealership, whose owner was a venturesome Hollander. Very competent shop. I showed them a Scimitar coupe shop manual and they agreed to work on mine when I didn't think I could do the necessary well enoughl. Used them for head gaskets (I supplied the parts), overdrive replacement (ditto, NOS unit mailed from the UK, very inexpensive) and clutch slave cylinder replacement.

    When the 504 got old herself wanted to replace it with a 505. We're both glad that I convinced her an Accord would do.

    More about Boyer. Their QC was quite stringent, as would be expected from a Leitz subcontractor (lens elements, not complete lenses).
    I really liked my 504. It had it's quirks, such as a huge gap between first and second gear ratios and electric windows on the front doors only - but it handled well and I thought the brakes were superb. One winter I put four studded snow tires on, and as long as I didn't have to actually push snow it went everywhere. The only car I've liked better was the '82 Volvo Turbo.


    You have to be very special to contract to Leitz - once again Q.E.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VPooler View Post
    Sorry, English is not my first language :P But you are right, designed and built by humans, although in a specialized shop.
    V, I didn't mean anything personally directed at you. Be assured that your English is far better than my Estonian.

    I was using my somewhat special sense of humor to make a jab at the awe things like Hasselblads and Zeiss lenses are sometimes held in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    Stuff and nonsense. Eric Beltrando, who knew the man well, tells me that the last owner of Boyer (CEDIS-Boyer, then) glued Beryl lens groups by hand. Literally by hand, he held them in his hand, didn't use a v-block.

    And remember,the Beryl is a Dagor clone. By Eric's calculations, a very good Dagor clone.

    If anyone read my article on the fotomosaic site, you'll notice I suggest using your tongue to see if the elements are lined up correctly. Works like a charm.
    Jon

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    Jon, I knew you were a little kinky, but...
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Nope, I'm just "sensitive"...Kinky is the fellow who ran for governor a few years ago:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_Friedman

    If you've not read any of Kinky's novels, well...I'd suggest "Greenwich Killing Time" as a good start. "Armadillos and Old Lace" isn't bad, either. I haven't read "Elvis, Jesus and Coca-Cola" yet, but I do have a copy.
    Jon

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