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    What kind of lubricant to use?

    I've got a Canon Power Winder A but it's somewhat noisy. I was rather surprised how noisy. I removed the faux leather and unscrewed it but from what I could figure out it wasn't the servo itself making the noise but the 5-6 gears that were attached to it (some kind of reduction gear system).

    I couldn't get them off because I didn't have a circlip remover tool at the time. I tried some 3-in-1 sewing machine oil but it didn't really help. So I got some Plio-Bond to put it all back together but I figure I'll give it another try before putting on the Plio-Bond.

    So, the question is: What kind of lubricant would give the best results? I'm looking to make it quieter and last as long as possible. I also may need to clean up the 3-in-1 oil I put on from before, just to make sure.

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    3 in 1 oil is vegetable based and will dry out and leave a sticky residue. When it time to relube the sewing machine one wipes off the old goo and applies the fresh oil.
    Wipe the gears off with an alcohol swab then apply a light coat of White Lithium Grease which is easily found at hardware and stores that sell power tools.

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    For the gear tooth’s you need some kind of grease type lubricant . Check the Microtools.com , they have a number of lubricants for the cameras, but this lubricants expensive. I think you can try a little bit of technical Vaseline or white lithium grease from the automotive stores. You need just a little bit on the toothed part of the gears. The old oils and greases can be removed with lighter fluid and a small brash.

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    3 in 1 oil is vegetable based..
    Have you proof of this? I don't believe it's true though not recommending its use for this purpose.
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    Thanks for all the helpful comments!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg View Post
    Have you proof of this? I don't believe it's true though not recommending its use for this purpose.
    It's always acted, felt, looked, and smelled like a petroleum oil. I've never noticed it drying up, I use it on an antique reel type lawnmower (because someone gave me a giant can of it. I oil the mower before and after every use). But I have to admit I've never paid close attention to it; I use it on the mower as much to wash away any grit as to lubricate it.
    No, I'm not advising you to put it on your winder!
    Lithium or molybdenum disulphide grease is the way to go there.
    Last edited by E. von Hoegh; 09-10-2013 at 04:00 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    With plastic gears silicone grease weould be an alternative.

    Though I try to avoid a silicone oils and greases, due to spread, surfaces unwillingly becoming slippery and the difficulty (compared to Petroleum based lubricants) to remove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgX View Post
    With plastic gears silicone grease weould be an alternative.

    Though I try to avoid a silicone oils and greases, due to spread, surfaces unwillingly becoming slippery and the difficulty (compared to Petroleum based lubricants) to remove it.
    +100 on the silicone lubes. I don't use them unless neccesary - meaning specified.
    Plastic gears are usually pretty quiet, though.

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    I use a white lithium grease that has teflon in it. The can says its designed for metal to metal. So far its been fine, even on lens helicals and gives it a decent focusing feel, not as nice when the lens is new, slightly stiffer. I contemplated buying the nicer lubes, but some get really expensive for a tiny squirt tube. Wasnt worth it for me, especially when I was cleaning and lubing things that didnt cost much anyway. I also use graphite/moly powder too but not for gears, I mix it up with some naptha and apply it.

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    I have always used lubricants that are intended for fishing reels such as Penn Lube. Try any store that sells fishing equipment.
    Last edited by Gerald C Koch; 09-11-2013 at 12:45 AM. Click to view previous post history.
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