Switch to English Language Passer en langue française Omschakelen naar Nederlandse Taal Wechseln Sie zu deutschen Sprache Passa alla lingua italiana
Members: 69,922   Posts: 1,522,101   Online: 773
      
Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 41
  1. #31

    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    san jose, ca
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    2,524
    Images
    77
    Quote Originally Posted by Ole
    So why fit a rangefinder you can't see through with you right eye?)
    So get a camera with two range finders, one for left, one for right. Works for me.

    tim in san jose
    Where ever you are, there you be.

  2. #32

    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Shooter
    Med. Format RF
    Posts
    148
    Oddly, my wife actually likes the way my 1ds II fits in her hands--she puts her left hand on the vertical grip for added support, and it all apparently fits perfectly.

    I was amazed, because she's complained about weight and hand fatigue with everything else I've ever owned, even my little Hi-Matic 7sII and Zorki 3. So maybe it really is well thought out ergonomics, not just raw size/weight.

    Doesn't Annie Liebowitz use an RZ handheld? I tried that once and found it the most awkward mess imaginable. Anyone who can do that all day must have high marks on dexterity as well as strength.

  3. #33
    medform-norm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Netherlands
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    863
    Images
    1
    Ohh, c'mon, where are all the women on this forum to say that it is all a matter of experience and getting used to. (And that the discussion is a trifle sexist as well, as it is more of a small hands vs big hands thing than anything else, you caucasian brutes are forgetting the slender hands of our Asian friends)!

    I (female) have pretty small hands with short fingers, yet prefer medium format gear. Sure, the Linhof 220 side grip is too big for me to hold the way Linhof intended it, so I hold it another way - equally comfortable, although I bet it looks awkward to outsiders. Optikas and Rittrecks can hang comfortable around my neck on a strap and you can use them as Rolleis. Otherwise, mount them on a tripod and your worries are over! Both my Kiews are fine handheld too. (Unfortunately they don't come in Sanriyo styled patterns...)

    When I switch to 35mm cams (like my Himatic 7s or our Canon F1), I always think at first "aahhh, how tiny! They're so cute, can you take real pictures with it?, gosh, I almost forgot! After half an hour of course one adjusts to the size of that camera too and it's fine again. What I personally couldn't stand to work with are those Rollei 35 types, too small, too many dials/levers/etc too close to eachother.

    Now I want to hear from all the 8x10 and larger studs on this forum how they shoot from the hip with their ULF gear! That would be impressive - uless your name is Arnold.

  4. #34
    arigram's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Crete, Greece
    Shooter
    Medium Format
    Posts
    5,474
    Images
    69
    Am I being sexist for raising the question? I didn't design the cameras.
    My hands are gentle and relatively small for a european brute and my wrists are
    very fragile, I can hurt them easily.
    I would find maybe a bigger camera like the 67 SLR Mamiyas difficult to handle but my Hasselblad fits me perfectly so it came as a surprise to hear two other people having problems with it.
    Maybe it was wrong to make the connection of them being women.
    So, shoot me.
    aristotelis grammatikakis
    www.arigram.gr
    Real photographs, created in camera, 100% organic,
    no digital additives and shit




  5. #35
    bobfowler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    New Jersey, Land of the Living Dead
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    1,440
    Images
    19
    My wife likes an FM with a motor drive, but she won't use the F3/MD4/MK1 because of the weight. She also adores the Bronica SQ-A on a Speed Grip and says it's too uncomfortable without.
    Bob Fowler
    fowler@verizon.net
    Some people are like Slinkies. They're really good for nothing, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

  6. #36
    colrehogan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    St. Louis, MO
    Shooter
    Large Format Pan
    Posts
    2,016
    Blog Entries
    3
    Images
    16
    Quote Originally Posted by medform-norm
    Ohh, c'mon, where are all the women on this forum to say that it is all a matter of experience and getting used to. (And that the discussion is a trifle sexist as well, as it is more of a small hands vs big hands thing than anything else, you caucasian brutes are forgetting the slender hands of our Asian friends)!

    I (female) have pretty small hands with short fingers, yet prefer medium format gear. Sure, the Linhof 220 side grip is too big for me to hold the way Linhof intended it, so I hold it another way - equally comfortable, although I bet it looks awkward to outsiders. Optikas and Rittrecks can hang comfortable around my neck on a strap and you can use them as Rolleis. Otherwise, mount them on a tripod and your worries are over! Both my Kiews are fine handheld too. (Unfortunately they don't come in Sanriyo styled patterns...)

    Now I want to hear from all the 8x10 and larger studs on this forum how they shoot from the hip with their ULF gear! That would be impressive - uless your name is Arnold.
    Okay, I (female) have a Hassy that I've used handheld. My hands aren't that big and I don't have particularly long fingers.

    The cameras I dislike are these tiny digi compacts. I usually wind up putting my fingers on the lens just trying to hold the camera. The ergonomics are all wrong.

    I shoot 8x10 and I am not a stud! My Ansco weighs in at 12 lbs., and the tripod/head combination weighs 9 lbs. Then I have my film holders, lenses and accessories.
    Diane

    Halak 41

  7. #37

    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Shooter
    Medium Format
    Posts
    695
    Images
    3
    If my Kiev 60/prism/Arsat 80mm combo was made for a woman, it would have been one of those Soviet-bloc weightlifters from the Moscow Olympic Games.

    I'm not sure WTF they were thinking when they put that together, but ergonomics and ease of carrying weren't on the list.

  8. #38
    medform-norm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Netherlands
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    863
    Images
    1
    I shoot 8x10 and I am not a stud! My Ansco weighs in at 12 lbs., and the tripod/head combination weighs 9 lbs. Then I have my film holders, lenses and accessories.
    Hey Diane,
    I wasn't implying that all people who shoot with 8x10 are studs, only those that do it handhold from the hip!

    I put that there just to remind people that not all medium format cameras were designed to use as hand helds, so it wouldn't matter who uses them. You and your 8x10 proved the point wonderfully.

    And mr. Aristoteles is, of course, (seeing he lives in Greece ) forgiven for making the 'wrong' connection!!

    Kievs weren't made for anybody particular, they were made for 'the people', remember?

    For me, they work fine, either handheld or on a monopod. I 'm a waist level finder person, and it weighs a lot less without the TTL!

  9. #39
    Nicole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    2,548
    Images
    8
    Camera sizes, egonomics, weight, noise level, lens preferences etc... are a very personal thing. It's like trying to generally define art - one can't unless it's just a personal opinion.

    I assume most cameras are designed by men and so I'd really love to see a camera designed by a woman and compare differences. It doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the perfect camera for me.

    Macho, bruts, whatchamecallits.... who cares, there are plenty of them - and guys I'm not generalising here on APUG, I'm thinking of individuals I know. (avoiding an onslaught here)

    I'm still trying to find a camera that feels right in my hands and operates easily for me for the work that I love to do.

    Cheers
    Nicole

  10. #40
    Bruce Osgood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Brooklyn, N.Y. USA
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    2,418
    Images
    44
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole McGrade
    I'm still trying to find a camera that feels right in my hands and operates easily for me for the work that I love to do.

    Cheers
    Nicole
    For 35mm you might want to consider the Contax Aria. It's got some bells and whistles, none of which are needed to make pictures, but if you wish, they are there.


    http://www.kyoceraimaging.com/produc...itemnum=132000

Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast


 

APUG PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Contact Us  |  Support Us!  |  Advertise  |  Site Terms  |  Archive  —   Search  |  Mobile Device Access  |  RSS  |  Facebook  |  Linkedin