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    I have lived in California all my life, I'm 68 years old. I can remember as a child in Los Angeles in the early 1950's not being able to see the mountains on unbelievably smoggy days. From historical accounts (which I can't pinpoint exactly) the Indians who lived in the basin described the smoke to the Spaniards who came into the region in the 18th century. It is a well documented problem.

    Ron is right, the "ecological" legislation to protect us from ourselves has had a detrimental effect on jobs. You need so many permits to open a business that many have thrown up their hands and said they are leaving, or aren't going to expand in California. The parent company of Carl's Jr. has given up on expanding anymore in the state. It takes nearly a year to get all the permits to open up one restaurant. Here in San Diego the Eco-Nazis are holding Fourth of July Fireworks hostage because they want an ecological survey done before and after the event. It has been proven that there are no detrimental effects from the fireworks.

    Jesus had it right when He said that they will strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. I'm not against protecting the environment, I'm just against the idiocy of this mish-mash alphabet soup of needless governmental regulations which do nothing but destroy jobs and take away our freedoms.

    One more thing: Don't light up a smoke on the beach, you will be cited. (Sig heil!)

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    Having survived several gigantic forest fires myself, and having fought others, I'd say a lot of those draconian rules are essential if you care for your life or property at all. When I started high school two-thirds of my first year clasemates were homeless due to a 600,000 acre fire. California brush is engineered to burn and then repropagate. It's just not engineered for mindless suburban sprawl or idiots throwing ciggies out the car window. There's a reason Smokey the Bear has held his job for so long. Same here in the city. We get disastrous fires from illegal solvent storage, illegal fireworks mfg., illegal old wiring, unvented clothes dryers etc. Over the last thirty years I've seen several entire mfg building outright
    explode due to solvent abuse. One such explosion shattered windows clear at the other end of the Bay, fifty miles away. Originally all that chem
    storage was in big tanks quite aways from town, but again, dumb urban
    encroachment, right where residences and schools have no common sense
    belonging.

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    Try Lighter fluid

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    I use Electrical Cleaner, it works very good.
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    Everclear, 190 proof. There is no substitute.
    That's just, like, my opinion, man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DREW WILEY View Post
    Having survived several gigantic forest fires myself, and having fought others, I'd say a lot of those draconian rules are essential if you care for your life or property at all. When I started high school two-thirds of my first year clasemates were homeless due to a 600,000 acre fire. California brush is engineered to burn and then repropagate. It's just not engineered for mindless suburban sprawl or idiots throwing ciggies out the car window. There's a reason Smokey the Bear has held his job for so long. Same here in the city. We get disastrous fires from illegal solvent storage, illegal fireworks mfg., illegal old wiring, unvented clothes dryers etc. Over the last thirty years I've seen several entire mfg building outright
    explode due to solvent abuse. One such explosion shattered windows clear at the other end of the Bay, fifty miles away. Originally all that chem
    storage was in big tanks quite aways from town, but again, dumb urban
    encroachment, right where residences and schools have no common sense
    belonging.
    And all of the above are state, county, and local problems, and should be regulated as such. No argument from me there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    Everclear, 190 proof. There is no substitute.
    Are we still talking about film cleaning J?

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