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    I thought this was a great idea as well since i live 1/2 hour away. Then i saw the price on Calumet's email to me. Has anyone been in the LA Calumet store lately? They have put their limited supply of b+w materials in a tiny room apart from everything else in the store. The shelves were b+w supplies were are now filled with inkjet papers. Good luck getting any of the papers listed on their website from a local store. Calumet's in this thing for the money.
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    That's hardly surprising given the low volume of traditional B&W stock. As a retailer myself, I wouldn't waste wall space on stock that caters for a niche market - I'd put it in a cupboard and advertise availability.

    The days of wandering in and playing touchie feelie are coming to a close.

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    The conference should be FREE!!!

    Ilford is a commercial enterprise, so is Calumet, and so is Art Center.
    A token fee of $50 would be appropriate.

    I live 15 minutes away and will not attend.

    Although all my work is 100% black and white, traditional silver based photography I find this kind of "Symposium" nothing more than advertising disguised as "editorial" content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by per volquartz
    Ilford is a commercial enterprise, so is Calumet, and so is Art Center.
    A token fee of $50 would be appropriate.

    I live 15 minutes away and will not attend.

    Although all my work is 100% black and white, traditional silver based photography I find this kind of "Symposium" nothing more than advertising disguised as "editorial" content.
    Be that what it may, I expect some good information from the sessions. I’ll be there, and am looking forward to it.

    May even enter some prints in the contest.

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    While each potential attendee must make their individual decision about the cost:benefit ratio for them, there are real expenses involved in staging a conference of this nature. Thus, as I suspect the sponsors have a desire to continue to be commercial enterprises, a fee that covers most of those expenses is probably necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbarker
    While each potential attendee must make their individual decision about the cost:benefit ratio for them, there are real expenses involved in staging a conference of this nature. Thus, as I suspect the sponsors have a desire to continue to be commercial enterprises, a fee that covers most of those expenses is probably necessary.
    True, but $300 is ridiculous. $50 would more accurately represent the true cost of holding the meeting and also enable more to attend.

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    Been there.
    I when to ACCD in the early '80's.
    I would go to the event but I still don't have the Lambo yet.

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    as I stated in the Simmons thread, I have no intentions on going as the $300 is just the tip of the iceberg for me. Gas if I drive over 3000 miles or the cost of the airlines ticket will double or triple the cost of the meeting. So, they can put me down as a no show. I would love to attend but not at pawn broker prices.

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    I would love to go and ask the why the heck they dont have anything going in Mexico. But like Lee said, $300 is the least of the problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbarker
    While each potential attendee must make their individual decision about the cost:benefit ratio for them, there are real expenses involved in staging a conference of this nature. Thus, as I suspect the sponsors have a desire to continue to be commercial enterprises, a fee that covers most of those expenses is probably necessary.
    Sponsors typically pay a fee to BE a sponsor, host a booth per se, to promote their business, with hopes of expanding sales or generating new sales.
    350 attendees (providing they fill the bill) at $300 ea. is $105,000.

    Seems they want to promote themselves at our cost...and make a profit perhaps. I can't see how this "conference" could possibly cost this much. Cost of facilities rental and guest speakers could be covered by a lesser fee.
    Other expenses are their responsibility under typical marketing/advertising expenditures.

    For that amount I expect to see Ansel, Edward, et al reincarnate...
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