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    Double standards... yikes, please let's not go there *yawn*.

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    If someone announced a workshop from which women would be barred outright, I'm sure he would be accused of discrimination. Personally, I think a person should be able to offer a workshop for either men or women if he cares to, but why the double standard?

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    it seemed to me, the woman only started out as a tongue in check comment as he had just finished a 1 on 1 workshop with someone who happened to be a woman.


    i don't know why i should be surprised that it has gotten twisted about.
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    Men only workshop in Arches National Park.

    Anyone interested?

    Participation in the belching and farting contest would optional.

    Should we offer a chili without beans? Personally, I would think not.
    Last edited by 25asa; 10-17-2006 at 09:18 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    The more standards the better! Anyone for a triple standard?

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    Hi Lee! I'd love to see you here in New England, and I'd be interested in taking a workshop, we have an active and wonderful NEAPUG group, so you are guaranteed to have a great time, keep me/us posted!!! Cheers, Krystyna

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    [QUOTE=dianna;378842]I would attend a women only workshop if there were one in the Dallas area... there's a dynamic in mixed male/female groups that impacts my ability to learn. I'm not sure how to describe it, but it's not there when I'm learning with a group of other women.

    Dianna,

    You are absolutely right and recent studies prove out your observation and there are valid reasons for this. Presently there is a move in education acknowledging this and now as studies continue, in some high schools, students are given the gender option in choosing classes. It is proving most beneficial to both genders.

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    I can't believe this has caused a stir with some members. In year 8, I think it was, in boarding school our class consisted of 40 boys and only 2 of us girls for certain subjects. Sink or swim mentality and no time for complaining about rights etc... Sometimes I really would love to say what's on my mind about a number of issues that have crept up especially in the past couple of months, what would that achieve? Nothing except for hurt egos.

    That's life. Get over it and move on.

    Lee - I'd be over in a flash if the time and money was right!
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    Lee,
    if this is going to be a women only event, does this mean you'll be making a trip to a plastic surgeon for some, err, 'corrective' surgery before you attend?

    I've heard you are a dedicated teacher, but I hadn't realised your dedication went *that* far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole View Post
    That's life. Get over it and move on.
    Got that right!
    Let's see, a womens' workshop at a boys only school... Gotta be some justice in that. I don't know what we could work out here at my school. I'll put it on the desk of my office-mate and photo teacher (a genuine woman as well, no less) and see if she wants to be involved.

    Maybe a parallel workshop (gender inclusive) which could run at the same time - separate but within "get to the party afterwards" distance away from the main event? This way I could be involved as well..

    Thanks for the great push, Lee. Let's see what develops (pun intended)

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    I'd sure sign up for a Texas-based workshop! Lee is a great instructor (was particularly helpful to this totally non-tech female!).

    Quote Originally Posted by dianna View Post
    I would attend a women only workshop if there were one in the Dallas area... there's a dynamic in mixed male/female groups that impacts my ability to learn. I'm not sure how to describe it, but it's not there when I'm learning with a group of other women. Each person is different. There are many women out there who will disagree with me. Just my $0.02. BTW I'm the only female engineer on a team with 17 men. Not only that, but they're all also republicans and love digital photography.
    "So I am turning over a new leaf but the page is stuck". Diane Arbus

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