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    Well it was calling a digital camera a pussy camera. I share all these memes here . A lot of people do share them, so they do get exposure beyond the page.

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    WHY SHOULD WE PROMOTE FILM USE? IS THAT NOT THE JOB OF FILM MANUFACTURERS?
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    I agree, but they are idiots. Someone has to save them. By “them” I mean the real people that do the work of making film and us, the people that shoot it. Let the executives fry in hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianmquinn View Post
    Let the executives fry in hell.
    But only the ones who worked so hard to kill the medium for what they thought was going to be their own benefit.

    If it weren't for the executives at Ilford, Adox and Fuji—and the others at a number of the surviving hardware manufacturers—we might not have a viable situation at all right now.

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    Fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    WHY SHOULD WE PROMOTE FILM USE? IS THAT NOT THE JOB OF FILM MANUFACTURERS?
    Ralph,
    of course that is the job of the film manufacturers.
    They make a living from it.
    If they want to keep their income, and if they want to increase their income, they have to do marketing for film.

    Impossible Project and Lomography have completely understood that. And have developed very successful marketing strategies.
    As a result they have increasing sales.

    But it is of course not only the job of the film manufacturers.
    It is the job of all who make a living from film.

    Therefore it is also the job of the film distributors like Freestyle, Fotoimpex, ars-imago, macodirect etc.

    And the job of the labs, the scan services, equipment manufacturers etc.

    No question that it makes much sense that we support them and help them.
    Probably lots of film fans are willing to do that.
    Lots of us are already doing this for years.
    But they don't want to do it alone. Those who make a living from film should show their commitment and start action in developing marketing strategies.

    With marketing for film as a photographic medium film has a chance for a sustainable future.
    Without marketing.......it will be hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    WHY SHOULD WE PROMOTE FILM USE? IS THAT NOT THE JOB OF FILM MANUFACTURERS?
    I think that's about what is happening right now, they are doing their math, and according to the figures there's no business for them continuing manufacturing film.

    So why bother... (like you say too)

    (Hence this thread, in order to try to discuss how to make film more interesting for people, and make sure the film manufacturers still continue manufacturing film, so we who like film can keep shooting and not have to completely abandon ship and go digital only....)

    Go figure *facepalm*
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    The best way to promote film use is using film. When inevitably someone will question about the reasons for doing it, instead of using digital technology, instead of giving sarcastic answers just explaining the pros of film would help a lot.

    Nobody ever succeeded by preaching a Gospel by scoffing at the unbeliever. Give a virtuous example and be prepared to encourage virtuous behaviour, simply.
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    How to promote film use?

    As for promoting film use, Michael Raso, through his Film Photography Podcast and associated Film Photography Project website, holds monthly drawings for working film cameras he's acquired through donation and gives away film. There is also an FPP photo pool on Flickr.

    The URL is www.filmphotographyproject.com

    Dieter Zakas

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    PKM-25 comment on the Is Kodak dead thread made me think about starting a thread about how we can promote film use and how Apug could help in promoting film and analogue photography.

    1) Showing Kids, young adults and all other people the wonder of film and darkroom
    2) Sending in analogue photographic works to all relevant Photomags
    3) Pushing for film on professional jobs
    4) Buying Film
    5) Shooting lots of film
    etc...
    I am open for any suggestions

    Dominik
    Over the course of the last four years or so, I have actively pursued "options" 1, 4 and 5. To wit: I have started two nephews and my lone niece in photography by providing each with a Nikon (an F2, F2 Photomic and F3HP respectively) and introduced each to the various emulsions still available. Nephew #1 is a Velvia and HP5 shooter, #2 shoots a number of Kodak C41 products as well as PanF and Delta 3200, and my lone niece is gaga over Tri-X and HP5. All are capable in the darkroom (B&W only) and all shoot regularly. And to warm the heart, nephew #1 and niece both refer to film as doing "real photography"; digital is for "fooling around" shooting stuff that really doesn't matter. BTW: all are under the age of 21.

    For my own efforts, I continue to shoot film/digital (E100G/E100VS/Velvia/PanF/FP4/Tri-X/HP5) in about a 95/05 ratio (digital serving as a sort of de facto "polaroid" or sketchbook).
    Some Nikons (F6, F5x2, F3P, F3HP, F2ASx4, F2A, F2 and a D800), with Ai/Ais Nikkors ranging from 15mm to 600mm; Leicas (M6X2), with Leitz glass from 28 to 90mm and a pair of Hasselblads (500c/ms), with Zeiss glass from 50 to 250mm. A bit of stuff for a no-longer practicing professional, but justifiable for a now-converted hobbyist who absolutely loves taking/making pictures.



 

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