The economics, or the way those get in between, has been discussed quite a lot. Afterall it's just about the only problem there is.
Originally Posted by Jaf-Photo
And PE pointed it out, give him a small team, a small facility; and film would be churning out... But then there are the costs of setting it all up, and perhaps lack of economies of scale.
Kodak has got a huge production facility (B38), Alaris has the smaller Harrow which could (and did) coat film. However, while EK is in the game I don't think they will have the need to make film in the UK.
Curiously Fuji abandoned the MP market which has the potential for most volume. For sure they have a smaller facility than EK's.
Ilford is very well adapted to B&W, and then there is Ferrania who have adapted the research area of their facility for producing the film (Mirko or other German source said that).
Inoviscoat has a small facility (could be seen as an Agfa descendant) and they coat some material for Impossible, work with ADOX, and it's possible that Lomochrome Purple was coated there. But they don't have interest in produce film by themselves.
Mirko mentioned a base budget for color film with this company around, IIRC 4-5 million €. But I forgot what id did include.
Perhaps a future in film is working with smaller companies who provide the coating service.
I agree, though Ilford has said before that they are set up to produce color films they just choose not to, so in theory if all the other color film companies went kaput, they could pick up the slack if they chose to. I just know sadly they would probably make a C-41 emulsion and not an E-6 emulsion... Which is all I shoot in color.
Originally Posted by Prest_400
I think on reflection I would prefer Kodak put their film prices up to then stopping producing it, because that is the choice these days.
I wouldn't even think about switching at double the price. Triple - eh, I'd probably give up photography.
Originally Posted by NB23
It's not a matter of switching. It's a matter of shooting film, or stopping photography except for family snapshots and the like. Tried digital, simple don't enjoy it. For something I don't enjoy I'm not going to switch to it just because it's cheaper. I still won't enjoy it.
But why did you comment out of the blue on a thread that had stopped being active over a year ago?
Originally Posted by benjiboy
"I'm the freak that shoots film. God bless the freaks!" ~ Mainecoonmaniac ~
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Might have been Kodak's cine film and process price increase @1stJan14 google to find letter of Nov13.
Originally Posted by PKM-25
They have made positive and negative film in the past using the both the Agfa and Kodachrome coupler style.
Originally Posted by StoneNYC
But while the cheap Fuji is in most shops here there would be no market to justify the investment in E6 or C41.
It is like 220 they used to do two film types in 220 but stopped.
If Fuji keeps going for a long while, much better.
Originally Posted by Xmas
Also, it is the technological / R&D gap that will be lost when a smaller company has to produce the film, if they don't get the original formulas. Fuji and Kodak dropped a huge amount on resources on R&D for the film, other companies didn't. Doesn't mean they had bad film, but that it wouldn't be as technically perfect as Kodak or Fuji's. Another reason to not enter the colour market.
I can't, for the life of me, remember how this technological regression effect was named.
As of 220, Simon stated that it wasn't feasible; Aside of the expense of fixing their machine, the backing for the film had a huge MOQ and it wouldn't payoff for 3 decades!
And on a Ilford factory tour report (was linked on a thread here) it was mentioned that they tried to seek a partner, without success. (Kodak and Fuji have 220 finishing lines, but no mention of who were those)
As of this thread being revived... Still film increases weren't made last year?
The "crosstalk" between EK and KA...
Aren't I allowed to make another remark after giving the matter some consideration ?
Originally Posted by PKM-25
Does anyone have any information about the rumors that Kodak sheet film is about to double?
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