Originally Posted by ME Super
Yes! Very impressive. You could also add Ilford Pan 100 and Pan 400, available in some parts of the world and easily obtainable in the US. And to think that two of the films you list have been added within the last 10 years, no grass growing under Ilford/Harman's feet.
It's a bit of a Catch-22, similar perhaps to what is happening with the New55 project; you can't build a market of new customers until you have the product for them to use and love. And you can't build a new product until you have a market for it. The devil is in the forecast I guess.
Oops. Harman. And Harman/Kardon.
Originally Posted by lxdude
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.
Originally Posted by Simon R Galley
Is it possible, that perhaps since SFX is not available in sheet film, that you would look at the sheet film market for IR.
I feel like the yearly special order ULF might be a good place to get a sense of the market interest? With everyone's stock of aura 820 and other LF sheet IR running low, it might be a good time to introduce this just in sheet film?
Sheet film users are already used to spending a bit more, and it wouldn't interfere with SFX sales as there are none for sheet film (as far as I can recall, please correct me if I'm wrong).
So perhaps this is an option? Maybe not this year but next years ULF special order run?
I suspect that sheet film IR or near-IR (i.e. SFX 200) sales would be absolutely tiny and Harman would get into the usual difficulties of cost and wastage in production etc.
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Maybe, but I think the LF'ers might consider the higher price to snag fresh 820ish IR... It doesn't interfere with the SFX and is only one base to deal with instead of 3 different ones, so it's a little more reasonable of a request.
Originally Posted by Tom Kershaw
EDIT: I'm talking 4x5 and 8x10 only (maybe 5x7). No extreme cutting sizes to start, just basics.
I'll wait to hear what Simon thinks.
Last edited by StoneNYC; 05-31-2014 at 11:59 AM. Click to view previous post history.
wow, and some say this is the twilight of film photography ?
Originally Posted by erikg
its great to see ilford/harman moving ONWARD+UPWARD!
its too bad they don't sell some of their emulsion in a bottle !
i'd buy it in a heartbeat ...
Same emulsion R&D even smaller market volume.
Originally Posted by StoneNYC
I would like to say thank you to Simon and Ilford / Harman for listening to the customers, and caring enough to actually let us know why things may be doable or not.
I was somewhat concerned that I may be making a mistake by pressing forward with film, and building a darkroom - but I am fairly confident that as long as companies like Harman are around, we should expand our use of their products.
I also would also love to see Ilford produce a run of 220 and 127 every year, but would also like to see them spool up some 620 if that is within reason. Seems that it may only require the slightly different spool size for 620. If people can use their old favorites again, then I would think that would be additional film sales.
One thing we can ALL do, is encourage people to dust off their old film camera's and start shooting film again. Get people interested in the FUN side of photography again. And get them using Ilford products. The most important long term goal is that Ilford / Harman remain profitable. That is what will assure us of having the products we love.
So, Thank you Simon. And let the everyone know that the hard work and great products are truly appreciated.
I wish Ilford could get the formula from Kodak for the emulsion for infrared, because it really was a good emulsion. A good emulsion on a LOUSY base. I remember it was "Estar AH" base, whatever that is. Curly damn stuff. No grey dye to stop blooming, so the pictures always came out with an "aura" around everything. I could live with the horrible grain, but not the grain AND that awful base. If Ilford could get hold of the formula and put it on a decent material, then the world would have its first good roll of infrared film. Oh, that's right--30 years too late; nobody to buy it anymore.