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    Quote Originally Posted by wblynch View Post
    Can we please keep this thread for the ILFORD ULF film program? I don't think it's fair to keep talking about Kodak in an ILFORD thread.
    ^^^^^ thats what I'm trying to say ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalom View Post
    The SPOOL is 3.715" wide. I'd guess the film itself would have to be a tiny bit narrower than that so it doesn't jam between the flanges.

    I just measured some actual 122 film stock, and it came out as 3.614", more or less. I don't know whether this is factory VP122 or some of that 105mm Ortho Copy microfiche that I cut down myself; the edge markings only say "KODAK SAFETY FILM" with no frame numbers. 3-5/8 is exactly 3.625", so this would be pretty close.
    Thank you Shalom for the correction. I wrote the message before I processed my first roll of 122, so I had nothing to measure against, only online references. I now have processed a roll of verichrome pan and I agree, my film measures 3-5/8 inch wide as well. Which makes sense since 3.715 would be a rather weird number

    Simon, my offer is still open. I can express mail a piece of the film and a spool, if needed, to you so you can match it when cutting HP5+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Well you are lucky as we will be making 122 FORMAT roll film available in slittings ( in HP5+ only )
    on a purely technical point we make 122 FORMAT as being 3 and 1/4 wide 82.55mm. :
    Thank you!!!!!! This is fantastic!!

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    Dear All,

    I think I may have got the jump on you lot for once.....We will actually be making Roll film Wrapper ( 120 backing paper ) available in 100' lengths in in the ULF run.

    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited.

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    Re 122 Film

    The issue we have is that is removed from the ISO standards.

    Do not worry, we will find out the correct size by the time we cut it !.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Re 122 Film

    The issue we have is that is removed from the ISO standards.

    Do not worry, we will find out the correct size by the time we cut it !.

    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
    Hey Simon, this is great! I know this run is much greater than in the last with so many specialized sizes, so thank you!

    That said, if you see a pattern where some film doesn't sell (can't see how but just as an example) would you consider making some kind of company statement about every... 3-5 years having a more extensive run? So even if it won't work out that there's enough to do it every year, that as a company you will commit to continued runs SI ce you're the only provider? Even if it's only every few years?

    Just wondering if that can be done (with an actual published predicted list of special runs).

    Thanks. Hope that was clear.



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    Dear Stone,

    The reason why we do the ULF run once per annum is to minimise costs and especially waste and by doing that we can cover the additional costs and justify offering this as a service, it is very, very expensive to make in such small numbers and 'manually' integrate this into the production systems and schedules. It is why I have to have the senior managements approval every year to run the ULF programme. BUT it is a also very important that we do it because this area of the market, the people especially, are very dedicated and produce some of the most special and important images in silver based photography, and it follows they are therefore customers with a specific need that needs to be addressed... so I cannot ever envisage HARMAN technology not doing it.

    The list this year will be the biggest ever, I cannot think it could possibly expand very much further or that we could ever agree to do even more specialist items even once every two or three years.

    I hope that answers your question.

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

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    Has the order date passed, or is there still time for 2013?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Dear All,
    As you know I advised that we would release all the information relating to the 2013 ULF and Custom Film manufacture via a press release by the end of April.
    Just to update you we are still working through with our distributor and reseller partners some details they need before we can release the details via press release, so its likely the press release will go out week beginning May 6th 2013.
    I apologise for this short delay.
    Regards
    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
    Hello Simon,
    I was curious if things were going as planned and if the press release will come out this week?
    I couldn't find yet it at http://www.ilfordphoto.com/pressroom/ or am I looking at the wrong site?
    I can understand this isn't an easy project fot you guys, so thank you for all the hard work !!

    And may I suggest that everyone, who is getting film through this ULF-2013 sends one print to Ilford (attn. Simon R. Galley) just as a thank you for still being committed to B&W film in non-commercial formats, thus keeping our hobbies alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Dear Stone,

    The reason why we do the ULF run once per annum is to minimise costs and especially waste and by doing that we can cover the additional costs and justify offering this as a service, it is very, very expensive to make in such small numbers and 'manually' integrate this into the production systems and schedules. It is why I have to have the senior managements approval every year to run the ULF programme. BUT it is a also very important that we do it because this area of the market, the people especially, are very dedicated and produce some of the most special and important images in silver based photography, and it follows they are therefore customers with a specific need that needs to be addressed... so I cannot ever envisage HARMAN technology not doing it.

    The list this year will be the biggest ever, I cannot think it could possibly expand very much further or that we could ever agree to do even more specialist items even once every two or three years.

    I hope that answers your question.

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
    Thanks Simon.

    It does and it doesn't answer my question, because it was more of a suggestion to HELP Ilford save money.

    I'll try and be clear and concise.

    So to use an example.

    122 is a specialty size so lets just use that as an example.

    So, after this run, there will be data on what sold when and how quickly and what took a while to sell.

    Based on that info, you can infer that certain films will be better to produce every 2 years rather than every year during the ULF. SO if you kept and produced a list of films you would say, you would produce every 2-3 years, it would help photographers to know what to prepare for.

    For example, I discover a sweet 122 camera at the market, I want to buy it, but don't know when film will be available if ever... SO, if there were a list, that told me, in 8 months I would be able to get film for the camera, I would purchase the camera and be prepared to buy the film when it's available. This works for the photographer as they are "guaranteed" that film will be available. And benefits Ilford because I might not buy the camera if I were unsure of attaining the film, and therefore ilford will sell less film because I won't be buying it because I didn't buy the camera.

    So you increase the sales of the specialty film, when photographers can "gear up" ahead of time, knowing the film will be made even if it's a few years down the road.

    Rather than hoping and begging (possibly in an annoying way) for ilford to MAYBE produce the film I need (for example the 70mm perforated that we thought wasn't going to be made, so I sold one of my 70mm perforated backs, only to find out after that you will now be making it after all... ) [dont worry I have 2 of them, this is just an example, and I'll still be buying the 70mm perf].

    Does this make sense now? Am I wrong that this would be a mutually beneficial thing to be able to plan for ahead of time?

    Thanks.


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