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    Has the order date passed, or is there still time for 2013?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Dear All,
    As you know I advised that we would release all the information relating to the 2013 ULF and Custom Film manufacture via a press release by the end of April.
    Just to update you we are still working through with our distributor and reseller partners some details they need before we can release the details via press release, so its likely the press release will go out week beginning May 6th 2013.
    I apologise for this short delay.
    Regards
    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
    Hello Simon,
    I was curious if things were going as planned and if the press release will come out this week?
    I couldn't find yet it at http://www.ilfordphoto.com/pressroom/ or am I looking at the wrong site?
    I can understand this isn't an easy project fot you guys, so thank you for all the hard work !!

    And may I suggest that everyone, who is getting film through this ULF-2013 sends one print to Ilford (attn. Simon R. Galley) just as a thank you for still being committed to B&W film in non-commercial formats, thus keeping our hobbies alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Dear Stone,

    The reason why we do the ULF run once per annum is to minimise costs and especially waste and by doing that we can cover the additional costs and justify offering this as a service, it is very, very expensive to make in such small numbers and 'manually' integrate this into the production systems and schedules. It is why I have to have the senior managements approval every year to run the ULF programme. BUT it is a also very important that we do it because this area of the market, the people especially, are very dedicated and produce some of the most special and important images in silver based photography, and it follows they are therefore customers with a specific need that needs to be addressed... so I cannot ever envisage HARMAN technology not doing it.

    The list this year will be the biggest ever, I cannot think it could possibly expand very much further or that we could ever agree to do even more specialist items even once every two or three years.

    I hope that answers your question.

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
    Thanks Simon.

    It does and it doesn't answer my question, because it was more of a suggestion to HELP Ilford save money.

    I'll try and be clear and concise.

    So to use an example.

    122 is a specialty size so lets just use that as an example.

    So, after this run, there will be data on what sold when and how quickly and what took a while to sell.

    Based on that info, you can infer that certain films will be better to produce every 2 years rather than every year during the ULF. SO if you kept and produced a list of films you would say, you would produce every 2-3 years, it would help photographers to know what to prepare for.

    For example, I discover a sweet 122 camera at the market, I want to buy it, but don't know when film will be available if ever... SO, if there were a list, that told me, in 8 months I would be able to get film for the camera, I would purchase the camera and be prepared to buy the film when it's available. This works for the photographer as they are "guaranteed" that film will be available. And benefits Ilford because I might not buy the camera if I were unsure of attaining the film, and therefore ilford will sell less film because I won't be buying it because I didn't buy the camera.

    So you increase the sales of the specialty film, when photographers can "gear up" ahead of time, knowing the film will be made even if it's a few years down the road.

    Rather than hoping and begging (possibly in an annoying way) for ilford to MAYBE produce the film I need (for example the 70mm perforated that we thought wasn't going to be made, so I sold one of my 70mm perforated backs, only to find out after that you will now be making it after all... ) [dont worry I have 2 of them, this is just an example, and I'll still be buying the 70mm perf].

    Does this make sense now? Am I wrong that this would be a mutually beneficial thing to be able to plan for ahead of time?

    Thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Noel View Post
    Has the order date passed, or is there still time for 2013?...
    Quote Originally Posted by TheToadMen View Post
    ...I was curious if things were going as planned and if the press release will come out this week?
    I couldn't find yet it at http://www.ilfordphoto.com/pressroom/ or am I looking at the wrong site?...
    If forum moderators weren't already so burdened, I'd lobby hard for some mechanism that requires reading (and clicking on to confirm it was read) every post in a thread before one could submit a new post. Just a short way up in this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    …The actual date we plan to release all the information via our website ( and on APUG ) is Friday 10th May ( one week today ) at 5.00pm UK time…
    Patience, children. Friday's only three days away.
    Last edited by Sal Santamaura; 05-07-2013 at 04:49 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    ...So, after this run, there will be data on what sold when and how quickly and what took a while to sell...
    Since everything ordered during the window will be prepaid and delivered, regardless of quantity, the datum for "what sold when" will be "June" and the datum for "what took a while to sell" will be "nothing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    Since everything ordered during the window will be prepaid and delivered, regardless of quantity, the datum for "what sold when" will be "June" and the datum for "what took a while to sell" will be "nothing."
    AHH ok, hmm well still the data will give a good idea for future runs, I still like my idea overall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post

    ...Rather than hoping and begging (possibly in an annoying way) for ilford to MAYBE produce the film I need (for example the 70mm perforated that we thought wasn't going to be made, so I sold one of my 70mm perforated backs, only to find out after that you will now be making it after all... ) [dont worry I have 2 of them, this is just an example, and I'll still be buying the 70mm perf].

    Does this make sense now? Am I wrong that this would be a mutually beneficial thing to be able to plan for ahead of time?

    Thanks.


    ~Stone | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk

    When I had found out that Ilford was not going to produce 70mm perforated, I wrote to this thread with the question to Simon. As he did not answer within a reasonable period, I had to buy 5 x 50' rolls of Kodak 2405 in Canada... Of course, I am still interested in fresh HP-5, but I wish I new about the Ilford plans a little bit earlier, especially after they had announced that they were not going to produce such size...

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    I received this message today (May 8th) from one of the distributers:

    Ilford will be issuing their “ULF Dealer list 2013” tomorrow. We certainly are a distributor and I will forward you the information when we receive it.
    "Have fun and catch that light beam!"
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    Dear Oleg-Photo,

    I'm sorry, but I have to have approval for each item, the 70mm double perforated was especially difficult as we had to invest in having a perforator altered and upgraded to 70mm, with no gurantee we will get any orders...but the work needs to be done before I can even confirm we can do it.

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :



 

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