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    Hi Everyone :

    Firstly on the 122 format we had made an error the film will be cut to 91.75mm ( the price will not change ).

    Nothing has been left off the list. Whilst we appreciate some people would like FP4+ in the 127 and 122 we need to see how many we get just offering one film ( HP5+ ) if we do OK, then next year we will make it available in FP4+ as well.

    120 Wrapper ( Backing paper ) is printed and finished ONLY to 120 size Sorry, it cannot be cut wider economically.

    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Hi Everyone :

    Firstly on the 122 format we had made an error the film will be cut to 91.75mm ( the price will not change ).

    Nothing has been left off the list. Whilst we appreciate some people would like FP4+ in the 127 and 122 we need to see how many we get just offering one film ( HP5+ ) if we do OK, then next year we will make it available in FP4+ as well.

    120 Wrapper ( Backing paper ) is printed and finished ONLY to 120 size Sorry, it cannot be cut wider economically.

    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
    You said "the price hasn't changed" but I just called one of the distributors on the list "freestyle photographic supplies" and they said you haven't given them prices yet, is that correct?

    If so I'm sorry if you already said that and I missed it but I wanted to know how much before I decide how many to order haha.

    Thanks.


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    Thank you Simon. We are all happy for what we can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post

    If so I'm sorry if you already said that and I missed it but I wanted to know how much before I decide how many to order haha.

    Thanks.


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    I have just found out the cost of 70mm perforated ( http://www.ag-photographic.co.uk/hp5...ted-3470-p.asp ). Well... I am affraid, I am to stick with out-of-date Kodak... Or, I should buy fresh HP-5 in 120 rolls as it would be almost 3 times cheaper! In 2009 Martin Reed mentioned completely different range of prices...

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    I would expect that the price is set to cover costs, so really can't be fairly compared to outdated stock, or items that are made by automated machinery.
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    That price for only 50 feet? Does each roll come with its own vampire attached?

    Wow, it may end up difficult to meet the minimum of 20 rolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oleg-photo View Post
    I have just found out the cost of 70mm perforated ( http://www.ag-photographic.co.uk/hp5...ted-3470-p.asp ). Well... I am affraid, I am to stick with out-of-date Kodak... Or, I should buy fresh HP-5 in 120 rolls as it would be almost 3 times cheaper! In 2009 Martin Reed mentioned completely different range of prices...
    I am in a similar situation - I have a 70mm back and was going to order a roll to support the ULF run, but at this price (220GBP=$340 for 50', which is about 18 rolls of 120; maybe it's slightly cheaper at other vendors?) there is no way I can justify it. I don't expect Ilford to sell it to me for less than it costs to make, but likewise I can't pay over 4x the price of 120.

    For comparison, I'm buying fresh Rollei IR400 from macodirect for $87/100', which is nearly 8x cheaper. I am honestly surprised at that price differential.

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    I am sorry for the second time quoting the same:

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Reed View Post
    As a possible extension of the Harman special sheet film production scheme, is there any interest in something similar in FP4/HP5 in 70mm perforated?

    Having run it past the planners at Harman, they are prepared to cut it as a special order for Silverprint. We would have to order a minimum of 60 cans of 30 metres, in either film type, and keeping it priced as competitively as possible it would sell at £80.00 + VAT per roll. This price is not significantly more than the equivalent sq. metres in 35mm 30 metres, so Harman are being supportive here. We would take a chance in holding some stock, but would like around 60-70% of it covered with committed orders to go ahead.

    When we first discussed it, Simon Galley estimated it would need a £20-30k order to kick it off - this then came down to 120 cans, so 60 cans is a big concession from Harman. So is there enough of a user base in 70mm to keep a regular supply of the format on tap, in very popular emulsions? We await the response with interest.
    Martin Reed at Silverprint had mentioned 2009 prices for 100' rolls. Was the technology and cost of silver so much cheaper that particular year?
    For comparison I'll quote from http://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/Il...anchorTimeLine
    "1992. Ilford 100 Delta film announced at Photokina. The recommended guide price for a 36exposure cassette was £3.50p."
    The difference in price in 1992 and 2013 you can judge yourself...

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    Yes we did sort out a 70mm run for SILVERPRINT and the order was never made to the best of my knowledge as no one ordered it.

    I fully appreciate the cost of all ULF and photographic products, the pricing is the absolute best we and and our partners can deliver. As I have shared with you many times, we make this once a year to try and keep the costs down and hopefully cover most of ours.

    If you can find an alternative at a lower cost then thats fine, most of these items are offered and made as no one else makes them, the 70mm perfed and unperfed was requested and has been made available as promised.

    Kind Regards,

    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited

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    I think I'll be limited to 2 boxes of 7x17 in FP4+ and am trying to decided whether I should do the roll of 122 or not in addition to the order.

    I could get 5 boxes of 5x7 for the roughly the same price as 122, except 5x7 would be 125 images vs. roughly 90-100 images in 3.25 x 5.5 inches. I've got six weeks to decide. I really want to support this ULF run as much as I can. The 122 Film format really should be resurrected - hardly likely in this digital age, but we've seen a revival with 110 cameras. However, I doubt I'd do more than 15-16 rolls of 122 in a year with the rest of my large format work, so I might just give it a try. I hope there will be 19 others who will join in having this produced.



 

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