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    Quote Originally Posted by LJH View Post
    Funny that those who fall under the title of this programme (i.e. those shooting ULF) aren't complaining about paying for film (over $8 per sheet/shot for me), yet those who shoot small formats are.
    I'm not complaining. But I will admit that as a shooter of mostly 35mm, and forgetting just how cheap that can be, I had a hic-up at the bulk roll prices of the ULF. Then I did the math to get a per/roll price and things get more real.

    I initially choked on one price for 46mm, then realized that it was lower than Efke's 127 (disregarding the need to hand roll).

    I'm happy. But I still have to wait for the June budget before I buy.

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    Simon,

    I wanted to thank you for the 46mm/127 offering. I will be placing my order once the money-wheel crosses into June. I just wanted to add my vote for next year offering this in FP4 (or alternating years of FP4/HP5). I'm sure I will find many good uses at ISO 400, but the cameras I have for 127 are more geared at 100-ish (or lower, if you have secret plans).

    (Keeping my eye out for a gray baby.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I do think it would be nice to know if they meet the quota this year, if next year it will be cheaper because tooling costs are then covered.
    My impression (from Simon's comments) is that retooling is not a major part of most of these costs. It comes down to waste relative to "normal" production. That and labor for what is really *several* special order runs.

    Also since I wast around (or aware) then, can anyone tell me if any of the smaller format roll films had been part of this run in the past? (And actually cut, not just offered).
    It (in my impression) keeps expanding, if slowly. This is the first year that I've seen 46mm/127 bulk rolls. So the first year that I've been more than an observer. Lots of discussion say this is the first for 122. I think *some* 120 and 70mm happened before, though the 120 backer paper is (I believe) new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    ...can anyone tell me if any of the smaller format roll films had been part of this run in the past?...
    Only 90mm FP4 Plus as of last year. Here's the 2012 list:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Thoms View Post
    This did cross my mind but the 4x10 is over three times the surface area and yet the price is within a dollar or two. Maybe I'll PM Simon about this as it is really bothering me.

    Roger

    I agree, an explanation is needed, asking Simon is the way to get it. We've tossed around our ideas but it appears only Ilford / Harmon knows. Our money is relavent here.

    Curt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    Only 90mm FP4 Plus as of last year. Here's the 2012 list:
    Can you tell me the difference between the 90mm and the 91.whateveritis mm film? I know the latter is 122? So then what's the 90mm?

    Thanks, just curious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt View Post
    I agree, an explanation is needed, asking Simon is the way to get it. We've tossed around our ideas but it appears only Ilford / Harmon knows. Our money is relavent here.

    Curt
    I did PM Simon and he indicated that it is volume related and that they would reevaluate the price for 2014.

    Roger

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    I would love the price to be lower but, considering this is a first go for a film that has been tough to find, I find the quoted price to be fair. I have been using Efke 25, which is nice, but I suspect that the QC on these Ilford films will be quite a bit higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Thoms View Post
    I did PM Simon and he indicated that it is volume related and that they would reevaluate the price for 2014.

    Roger
    Roger, that's interesting, maybe maybe not. A year is a long time to wait for a reevaluation. Unfortunately the situation now is how much will sell and who will pass. That isn't a good indicator for future pricing and volume.

    For what it's worth I'm still deciding on what to order. $300.00 plus for twenty five sheets. Am I in that league or fooling myself? Jim's 8x20 prints are impressive and Vaughn's 4x10 prints are stunning. How's the poem go? "I took the road less traveled and found it was a dead end." Get what you can and hope for the best I suppose.

    Imagine needing, wanting, more than one format!

    At least Ilford / Harmon alive and producing, and FP4+ is and has been a great film.
    Everytime I find a film or paper that I like, they discontinue it. - Paul Strand - Aperture monograph on Strand

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    At MPEX 2 7x17 FP4+ & 2 HP5+ 122 rolls will cost me 730 bucks.
    At Freestyle the same order is 780 bucks. Better savings with MPEX.
    I'd really only like to order one roll of 122, but I want to make sure this will be on next year's list.
    If there's better prices, let me know!

    I'm curious about the 90mm FP4+ film too. I can't figure out what it's used for either. Tempted to just buy this for savings over HP5+ 122 rolls. FP4+ would make more sense in my Kodak 3a camera - but consider my 2 rolls of 122 committing to the world cause.

    Any ideas how to store 122 film? Best I've though of is 4x6 print sleeves.



 

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