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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt View Post
    I agree, an explanation is needed, asking Simon is the way to get it. We've tossed around our ideas but it appears only Ilford / Harmon knows. Our money is relavent here.

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    I did PM Simon and he indicated that it is volume related and that they would reevaluate the price for 2014.

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    I would love the price to be lower but, considering this is a first go for a film that has been tough to find, I find the quoted price to be fair. I have been using Efke 25, which is nice, but I suspect that the QC on these Ilford films will be quite a bit higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Thoms View Post
    I did PM Simon and he indicated that it is volume related and that they would reevaluate the price for 2014.

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    Roger, that's interesting, maybe maybe not. A year is a long time to wait for a reevaluation. Unfortunately the situation now is how much will sell and who will pass. That isn't a good indicator for future pricing and volume.

    For what it's worth I'm still deciding on what to order. $300.00 plus for twenty five sheets. Am I in that league or fooling myself? Jim's 8x20 prints are impressive and Vaughn's 4x10 prints are stunning. How's the poem go? "I took the road less traveled and found it was a dead end." Get what you can and hope for the best I suppose.

    Imagine needing, wanting, more than one format!

    At least Ilford / Harmon alive and producing, and FP4+ is and has been a great film.
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    At MPEX 2 7x17 FP4+ & 2 HP5+ 122 rolls will cost me 730 bucks.
    At Freestyle the same order is 780 bucks. Better savings with MPEX.
    I'd really only like to order one roll of 122, but I want to make sure this will be on next year's list.
    If there's better prices, let me know!

    I'm curious about the 90mm FP4+ film too. I can't figure out what it's used for either. Tempted to just buy this for savings over HP5+ 122 rolls. FP4+ would make more sense in my Kodak 3a camera - but consider my 2 rolls of 122 committing to the world cause.

    Any ideas how to store 122 film? Best I've though of is 4x6 print sleeves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLawson View Post
    Simon,

    I wanted to thank you for the 46mm/127 offering. I will be placing my order once the money-wheel crosses into June. I just wanted to add my vote for next year offering this in FP4 (or alternating years of FP4/HP5). I'm sure I will find many good uses at ISO 400, but the cameras I have for 127 are more geared at 100-ish (or lower, if you have secret plans).

    (Keeping my eye out for a gray baby.)
    I don't understand this comment about not being able to use 400 speed film in a 127 camera, I only have one, and it's a junker, but I'm always having to push the Efke100 because its too slow and I can't even get past f/5.6 without a tripod (because shutter speeds drop below 1/30) so this confuses me, I don't see how they are "geared" to any film speed, but I'm asking because I want to learn and understand not to argue, hope that's clear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I don't understand this comment about not being able to use 400 speed film in a 127 camera.
    That's because most 127 cameras are Brownie type / box cameras with fixed shutter speeds of about 1/45 and they blow out fast film in anything more than dark shade. They were designed for ASA 64 films.

    They certainly don't have such luxuries as a tripod socket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wblynch View Post
    That's because most 127 cameras are Brownie type / box cameras with fixed shutter speeds of about 1/45 and they blow out fast film in anything more than dark shade. They were designed for ASA 64 films.

    They certainly don't have such luxuries as a tripod socket.
    OH haha I only own the yashika 44.. Which has a tripod socket and PC socket... So I didn't realize most weren't like that. However, why would you spend such money on good film like this at such a premium and shoot it with a brownie style lens? (I guess I've never understood the lomo style shooting, I'm too much of a control freak lol). Thanks for the info.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    ... However, why would you spend such money on good film like this at such a premium and shoot it with a brownie style lens?
    Exactly!

    Mostly I shoot color. Kodak portra 160 in 46mmx100ft is really cheap. Less than $2 a roll.

    But using old cameras the Multi-national corporations say we are not allowed to have anymore is really fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wblynch View Post
    Exactly!

    Mostly I shoot color. Kodak portra 160 in 46mmx100ft is really cheap. Less than $2 a roll.

    But using old cameras the Multi-national corporations say we are not allowed to have anymore is really fun.
    Process at home? I don't know many places that you can have c-41 127 done cheaply. And even home isn't cheap... Ok I'm eating up this thread I'll shush as its SLIGHTLY becoming off topic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I don't understand this comment about not being able to use 400 speed film in a 127 camera, I only have one, and it's a junker, but I'm always having to push the Efke100 because its too slow and I can't even get past f/5.6 without a tripod (because shutter speeds drop below 1/30) so this confuses me, I don't see how they are "geared" to any film speed, but I'm asking because I want to learn and understand not to argue, hope that's clear.


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    First of all, don't take me as an expert. I'm an aging newbie (started B&W darkroom in 1975 and haven't learned much since then).

    The 127 camera that I have now (somewhere, thought it was on the bookcase) has a top shutter speed around 1/100, and I use it for daylight walk-at-lunch sort of thing, or did until the Efke curl drove me crazy. ISO 400 and sunny-16 puts me where? f/32? I like *some* choice on depth of field.

    Waiting for a 127 Rolleiflex to ship. The pictures look good, and if it is half as good as it looks, I'll be happy.

    Of course, by the time I have this film, the days will be getting shorter and 400 may be just the thing.

    I'm certainly not complaining. I just like the full variety.



 

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