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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Weston View Post
    Personally I am not bothered who made it. It gives me an option.
    What seems to be an option in reality might be an option killer if the "option" is just another outlet for an already existing film and thus kills market volume for real options (a.k.a. new films).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ath View Post
    What seems to be an option in reality might be an option killer if the "option" is just another outlet for an already existing film and thus kills market volume for real options (a.k.a. new films).
    Hi Andreas - hello neighbour,
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    Thanks Andy!
    Sorry, a final question: on the cassette, bellow the DX code with all the silver squares and the bar code, there is a number, normally just above the film. Could you say what is it, please? It should look like 005634 (btw, that's for Fuji Superia).
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    OK, now I'm gonna shake up this forum, what I'm about to present is either a massive conspiracy theory exposed by some weekend-hobby-photo-dad-in-Chicago (err me)....or a mere mistake by Macodirect.de:

    Evidence:
    1) Macodirect.de published times for the New APX 400:
    http://www.macodirect.de/agfaphoto-p-2688.html
    2) Massive Dev published times for Kentmere 400 at 400ASA:
    http://www.digitaltruth.com/chart/se...?Film=Kentmere

    When comparing the two above datasets and cross-walking what is in common (i.e. the Macodirect.de table) vs the Massive Dev table, I find that all the times match, except for Rodinal, which matches what Mirko said was the new time for the New APX 400.....
    http://forum.fotoimpex.de/index.php?...214#entry16214

    My head spins soooooo hard....I just want to dev my new film and not blow the highlights.....or under dev....

    Below is my 'analysis':


    What on earth is going on here....

    Not to mention that none of the APX 400 times on Massive Dev match the New APX 400.

    It like this to me, just using the data I have, it is either:

    Kentmere = New APX 400 except for Rodinal
    or
    Kentmere <> New APX 400 because Macodirect.de was wrong saying to the world that the New APX 400 is almost exactly the same as Kentmere

    Anyone following this?

    Lupus Imaging, Simon, Mirko, Macodirect.de????
    Andy

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    Ok Andy! What is the bar code number on the cassette, please? That might indicate the manufacturer, unless they used an unallocated number.
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    017712

    What's it mean?

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    Thanks! See here: http://www.imageaircraft.com.au/DXsim/
    It comes up as ORWO Media Gmbh! lol It is using an unallocated bar code, just like the Kentmere films. The database in that DX simulator dates from 2005, if I'm not mistaken.
    Kentmere 400 (24 exp.) is 017703. See that 0177 is common to both.
    Kentmere uses 017701 to 017704 if I'm not wrong.

    P.S. See the thread above this one for a list of the Bar code numbers for present films.
    It also means that APX 400 is coated by Harman/Ilford, but it is a different film, even if the development times are almost identical. It is based on that film, I'm pretty sure of that.
    Looking forward to see some of your photos!
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    Andy, see Kentmere published times - they have their own internet site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsas View Post
    ....or a mere mistake by Macodirect.de
    Based on my experience: this.
    Regards,
    Andreas

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    Quote Originally Posted by miha View Post
    Andy, see Kentmere published times - they have their own internet site.
    All the published times that are on the Kentmere site match the Massive Dev times...
    http://www.kentmere.co.uk/Webfiles/2...1714152280.pdf
    Andy

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