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    ...although a different logic seems to apply to 35mm film.

    Best wishes,

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    Some film manufacturers have huge problems with a lack of credibility. Others have huge reservoirs credibility built from histories of dealing honestly with their customer bases.

    Harman Technology Ltd. resides in the latter group. If they say they can't or won't do something, one can trust that it's because there are very good reasons not to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    Some film manufacturers have huge problems with a lack of credibility. Others have huge reservoirs credibility built from histories of dealing honestly with their customer bases.

    Harman Technology Ltd. resides in the latter group.
    the Whole Idea of the ULF runs each year to to provide Harmon's customers with stock in sizes needed to use various no longer supported cameras. thus the long list of obscure sheet sizes, both American and European. Thay have also been Kind enough to try and make some obscure roll sizes, that otherwise whould be difficult or imposible to emulate.

    While I am sure that Simon would love if he could throw the tarp off the 220 film machine and offer 20 roll pro-packs of 220 as part of the ULF run, it is clear from earlier posts that the old machine would take a lot of reworking to get up and running, it was probably an early computer controled machine and we all know how quickly computer stuff gets out of date. No doubt it would require rebuilding hardware and software from the ground up to get it into production. They have run the numbers and the business case is NOT there. Just look at the edge printing on current Ilford 120 vs the Ilford 120 from 20 years ago to see that the current machine is a totally different animal.

    220 equipment can probably be modified for 120, in most cases by twisting the settings.
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    Silverprint in Great Britain posted its ULF-2014 order list today:
    http://www.silverprint.co.uk/Product...asp?PrGrp=2249

    From their June Newsletter:
    "Once a year Ilford Photo offer photographers the chance to order large and specialist sizes of film. Orders must be in by Friday 27th June. Full list of products available"

    Other (international) dealers can be found here: http://www.ilfordphoto.com/products/...alers_iss7.pdf
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    Does anyone know what happened to 122 format roll film this year? It's not on the Ilford list but various people seem to want it, me included... I thought after missing making it last year this would be the year to get some 122 HP5. Thanks for any information...

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    2014 ULF and Custom Film Manufacture From ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Li...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Altman View Post
    Does anyone know what happened to 122 format roll film this year? It's not on the Ilford list but various people seem to want it, me included... I thought after missing making it last year this would be the year to get some 122 HP5. Thanks for any information...
    I thought it was the 9cm roll option?

    http://www.freestylephoto.biz/116475...50-ft.-Roll-EI

    Or am I wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacd123 View Post
    ...<snip>...

    While I am sure that Simon would love if he could throw the tarp off the 220 film machine and offer 20 roll pro-packs of 220 as part of the ULF run, it is clear from earlier posts that the old machine would take a lot of reworking to get up and running, it was probably an early computer controled machine and we all know how quickly computer stuff gets out of date. No doubt it would require rebuilding hardware and software from the ground up to get it into production. They have run the numbers and the business case is NOT there... <snip>...
    Thos blasted numbers! We as film addicts need to do something about this! I propose we get all get together and invent a new form of math so that everything we want is profitable from Ilford. Kodachrome? no problem!, color IR film? HA! a trifling matter... Want that special imulsion that you loved 45 years ago? Simon laughs at how easy it is. It would all be so easy if we could just invent a new math. So get cracking you mathmatics people. I'm waiting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by madgardener View Post
    Thos blasted numbers! We as film addicts need to do something about this! I propose we get all get together and invent a new form of math so that everything we want is profitable from Ilford. Kodachrome? no problem!, color IR film? HA! a trifling matter... Want that special imulsion that you loved 45 years ago? Simon laughs at how easy it is. It would all be so easy if we could just invent a new math. So get cracking you mathmatics people. I'm waiting...
    It is not mathematics instead it is accountancy that is the problem - profit is the bad word you are grappling for.
    Kodak stopped doing 220 trix in 2010 (or there about) cause no one was buying it. Their 220 finishing machine may still be ok or sitting in a scrap yard being reduced to small parts for material recycling... Id suggest the latter, ditto Ilfords...
    My fav retailer still has some 16x20 from last years ULF run, so some one ordered it and vanished.
    Id buy a 16x20 camera if I needed one but I don't.
    http://www.silverprint.co.uk/Product...asp?PrGrp=2234
    Film sales are still reducing in volume?
    Digital cameras and CamPhones are getting cheaper. Most cam shops only sell digital cams, no second hand film cameras.
    There are exceptions like Lomo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I thought it was the 9cm roll option?

    http://www.freestylephoto.biz/116475...50-ft.-Roll-EI

    Or am I wrong?
    Thanks - I missed that on the Ilford list I had as it said "sheet" next to it. But I don't think there are any 9 cm x 50-foot film holders out there... Freestyle's list has it as roll. I think 122 might be closer to 9.2 cm but maybe I'm wrong. And I'd have preferred HP5. But close enough!

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    2014 ULF and Custom Film Manufacture From ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Li...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Altman View Post
    Thanks - I missed that on the Ilford list I had as it said "sheet" next to it. But I don't think there are any 9 cm x 50-foot film holders out there... Freestyle's list has it as roll. I think 122 might be closer to 9.2 cm but maybe I'm wrong. And I'd have preferred HP5. But close enough!
    Yea not sure, the measurement debate between the 9cm and 9.139cm or whatever the exact measurement was solved not sure but I think that freestyle might have just listed it wrong or whatnot, but it will fit either way, 1.5mm I enough to stay in the tracks

    Also not sure why it wasn't HP5+, I thought it was last year... But hurry, the orders are being finished SOON, I would order today to be sure....

    Might have been a lens shutter speed reason, HP5+ might be too fast for those old lenses?

    Good luck!
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