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    You can crank the saturation as high as you want. I agree it's not the same as Velvia but for mass market purposes it will satisfy most demands for saturation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    Anyone else remember Agfa Ultra 50? Now there was a super saturated neg film!
    I've got seven rolls left and they're holding up remarkably well. The reds in particular are so saturated it's like someone has dropped a blob of gloss paint on the paper. I've always wondered what it would be like printed on Ultra Endura.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatLABS View Post
    Yes thats true. No E6 kits though.
    http://www.silverprint.co.uk/Product...asp?PrGrp=5081

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    I was talking about Fuji, and in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I disagree, digital can't come close to the colors of Velvia50... Ektar100 has a much better chance than digital...

    Anyway AGFA Ultra50? Hmm I've never heard of it... A quick google search says I LOVE it!
    Yeah Ektar 100 is a nice film. So is portra 400 - high praise from someone who primarily shoots E6. I've had Dwaynes make slides from a scan of Ektar 100 and they look good too. Nice saturated colors like the print, only projectable!
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    Could the decline in slide film use be related to the increase in the affordability of consumer video cameras?

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    no slides were never consumer that is why kchrome disappeared.

    NatGeo, soft pornographic and fine art only.

    C41 was >95% of market, faster, cheaper better prints

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    Slides are fascinating. My dad shot about about 150,000 of them over the years, but eventually went the way of electronic capture with color. I love looking at slides via a nice Rollei projector. It really is something else. If I was shooting more color I'd probably try to be part of the last gasp of direct positive.

    It's too bad that the chemistry is becoming hard to obtain, but it had to be expected. I've used home C-41 kits from Arista before and they worked really well. I imagine their E6 kits would also do the trick. But for lab businesses I expect they wouldn't be very economical.

    Hope all of you who process E6 can find a viable alternative. Looks like Ron knows of a source in Rochester that might well be worth exploring. I'm sure their model is better suited to today's demand for E6 films.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmas View Post
    no slides were never consumer that is why kchrome disappeared.

    NatGeo, soft pornographic and fine art only.

    C41 was >95% of market, faster, cheaper better prints
    That is absolutely the opposite of the reality.
    Close to 90% of the customer base for chrome were amatures and small home users of 35mm slide films. The entire slide market was based on that market segment. As soon digital cameras, and more then that Digital print labs which could make fast, cheap and high quality prints of any materials (including negatives and digital cameras) regular folks stopped buying slide films and 90% of the market was gone in 1-2 years. That was the end.
    Video cameras might have had an effect as well, but those were cheap (relatively) and very popular since the early 90's yet slide films took the hit with the explosion of digital cameras 2001-2005.

    Most pro photographers stopped using chrome when IRIS printers came to marker, and even less of them used chrome when Imcaons and labmdas started selling, and before they all switched to digital completely they used negatives, because they were cheaper, and MUCH easier to handle (exposure tolerance etc.).

    Perhaps some old school print houses still used chrome, but all news photographers (except for some "silly" white house photographers, like the guy who shot monika and bill in the crowd), used negatives exclusivly, as all news rooms had super fast minilab film processors and funky nikon/leaf scanners. This was fast and the chance of having a non usable shot was almost non existent, but they always - shot negatives.

    The fact kodak had a hard time selling something 10 years before that has nothing to do with the actual demise of the market, but just shows that bad management and product marketing is nothing new there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    It's too bad that the chemistry is becoming hard to obtain, but it had to be expected. I've used home C-41 kits from Arista before and they worked really well. I imagine their E6 kits would also do the trick. But for lab businesses I expect they wouldn't be very economical.
    Kodak discontinuing anything does not make it more or less easy or hard to obtain.

    Kodak E6 chemistry was never marketed to consumers, and E6 kits were and are available regardless of that fact (and soon will be at least one more option).
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