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    Gerbershagen The new Head of Kodak Alaris says he wants input.

    Quote Originally Posted by skysh4rk View Post
    No, it's not. That's how rumours start.
    According to Fuji's site it's no longer available in sheet film, that may be where I was getting that from.

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    Why is sheet always the first to die?
    You'd figure sheet is where film shines

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarageBoy View Post
    Why is sheet always the first to die?
    You'd figure sheet is where film shines
    Sales volume (or lack thereof) drives product cancellations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    Sales volume (or lack thereof) drives product cancellations.
    The note I sent him essentially dealt with this issue.

    It addressed both the idea of running a kodak version of ilfords ULF special order, as well as explaining how to prevent a line switch.

    I related it to having 3 lines of motorola telephone versions and killing the executive version, the trickle effect of all the executives moving to a company that would still provide the executive phone, leaving Motorola.... So I hope that translated well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    Sales volume (or lack thereof) drives product cancellations.
    yup, been that way since the beginning

    no point selling a product that costs more money to make
    than it provides in revenue ( doesn't pay for itself ).
    even a kid with a lemonade stand knows
    if you don't break even you lose money.

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    bars give away peanuts for free

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatchetman View Post
    bars give away peanuts for free
    peanuts cost next to nothing and are salty which gets people to buy more beverages.
    and drinks at a bar are marked up about 4-5x cost ...
    i guess K gives us the film canisters and the box for free

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    I have kind of an interesting job which gives me a lot of access to senior execs at mid-market companies. Many times I'll ask about one of their product lines and I'll hear..."oh, it doesn't make us any money. It keeps the customer happy and it keeps them from going to one of our competitors." I've heard that same line many many times.

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    We do stuff like that in my business. We have high-margin products and low-margin products, and the low-margin stuff is kept around precisely for the reason you state: We don't want a competitor getting in the door at one of our customers.

    But I don't really see that applying here. What high-margin sales would KA be protecting by selling photographic film at low/no margins? The logic of selling the low margin stuff to protect accounts really only applies when selling to businesses.

    But to Stone's point, I think there is some merit to what he is saying. For Kodak branded film to have a future, they need to maintain the market presence at the "top". I can see that having some relevance. If there is a progression of the future film customer (maybe its a re-entry film shooter starting in 35mm, then going to MF, then going to LF), you will only get them at the start if they see an unbroken path to the top.

    I guess I just contradicted myself. Not the first time.
    I shoot digital when I have to (most of those shots end up here) and film (occasionally one of those shots ends up here) when I want to.

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    No business has ever succeeded by loosing money on a product and trying to make it up on volume. First, KA has to figure out how to make a profit; perhaps then then can offer other items.



 

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